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Featured Stories on BackYard Chickenspost #14192 of 178605/30/16 at 5:16pmpost #14193 of 178605/30/16 at 6:55pmpost #14194 of 178605/31/16 at 3:07amQuote:sounds good coulda been zero hatch, been thereOriginally Posted by alroy82
I didnt gather them and put back when she went broody so I had 4 or 5 rotten ones and a couple that didnt hatch I think 14 total but im pleased with 7... since this is a new hen to me an dc not sure about laying habits and I dont know if she has hatched any prior either.post #14195 of 178606/1/16 at 9:16ampost #14196 of 178606/1/16 at 11:03am
I think they are a pretty old strain... some pdfs of old books I have mention them, and there are lines in other countries with the muff trait.
Gad Muffs from Gad of Fayette, from 1820 to death of Judge Cook maintained in Western Pennsylvania, is what 1 book I have says (Game Fowls, their origin and history). Another mentions Irish Muffs also called New York Muffs, The Cummberland Muffs are also mentioned (Cockers Manual). I don't know if this helps... I just happened to be poking through these books for old school knowledge on poultry breeding, raising and care. But I think they are older than these texts. I am no expert but the trait is mentioned in old books on the OEG too. I found Spanish/S. American lines too on the net as I was looking for images last week of hard feathered muffed birds.
I hope someone way better educated on the lines can help.
I am not an expert at all on lines or games.post #14197 of 178606/1/16 at 12:09pmpost #14198 of 178606/1/16 at 5:40pmpost #14199 of 178606/1/16 at 6:09pmQuote:
Wow that is a lot of chicks... on the upside it means you have a good pool to choose from for your own breeding projects.
Are you breeding specific lines?post #14200 of 178606/2/16 at 4:59amQuote:
I did some more net poking last night to try and find more relevant info: Seems one line from The Kozura family in Pa. is where a lot of the muff lines come from (of course not all): they where obtained from an Irish man... the original family member crossed muffs & toppy lines... anyhow then his kids may have added some other blood latter. From this family a man named Billy Rubble got muffs which he crossed with Hatch and developed his own sub-line. Several other people also appear to have developed sub lines from either the Kozura lines directly or via Rubble. A lot of Rubbles went to Mexico it seems. Birds from the Kozura family ended up in the Philippines too...
This above info probably does not apply to all muffs. The old books I cited make it clear at one point Irish Muffs where big, so muff blood is probably in more than a few lines.
A popular mix seemed to be 3/4 whitehackle and 1/4 muff.
"Kozura fowl should be 100% straight combed,yellow & white legged & red some show white feathers in tail and wings." Someone else said "The Kozura fowl should be 100 percent straightcombed with yellow and white legs some with white in tail and wings.they are all red ."
I know I read Billy's had the green/willow legs I will have to re-look for that info.
Muffs seem to be universally known for true grit.
Any way these are more modern lines then the old books.
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