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Help need opinions on debeaking

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Getting my first order of day old chicks in a few weeks from Moyers Chicks in PA.  I am getting 6 egg-layers.  Have the brooder ready.  We built a heated coop that is 4'x6' with an 8' ceiling.  2 nest boxes, 2 large perches.  The outside run is 8'x10' and is also 8' high.  The hatchery reccomeded to debeak the chicks so they don't peck each other to death.  Should I have them do this? Will the coop and run be too small for 6 chicks?  The debeaking sounds cruel to me.

5 cats, 3 labrador retreivers, 2 quarter horses, 1 crazy goat, and 7 little chicks

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5 cats, 3 labrador retreivers, 2 quarter horses, 1 crazy goat, and 7 little chicks

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post #2 of 32

I have never had any of my chickens debeaked. I think the only time chickens peck each other that badly is when they are stressed and crammed into battery cages practically on top of each other. I personally would never choose to have that done to my babies. Congrats on your new chicks!!

"If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans" ~ James Herriot
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"If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans" ~ James Herriot
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post #3 of 32

Please do not debeak them. The coop is plenty roomy for them, the run is a great size, just give them some roosts or even a cement block or something they can fly up to in the run, if they need to run away from each other and they'll be fine.

 

 

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post #4 of 32

I would not debeak then either i think it is a cruel method (just my thoughts) 

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Typically chickens are only de-beaked if kept in very small cages or severely overcrowded. And even then it is a cruel practice. NO backyard chicken flock should ever be de-beaked, there just isn't reason to. 

 

IF you ever have problems with chickens picking on each other, just give them more space (ie, free-ranging) and hiding spots and they will be fine. big_smile.png

 

Hope this helps!

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I agree with the previous posts.  It's not necessary.  I have two productions reds that I bought already laying and they were debeaked.  My three BR's are not debeaked.  The reds have more issues grooming, one had lice that were tricky to get rid of and I think not having the longer beak made it difficult for her to naturally groom herself.

post #7 of 32

I would not debeak them if I were you. I never had any of my chickens debeaked. It is just not natural. Good luck with your new chicks!!!

I own 2 Barred Rocks named Oreo and Mrs. Chicken, 2 Buff Orpingtons named Camie and Buttercup, a black lab named Keyna, and a pit bull named Cody!

 


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I own 2 Barred Rocks named Oreo and Mrs. Chicken, 2 Buff Orpingtons named Camie and Buttercup, a black lab named Keyna, and a pit bull named Cody!

 


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post #8 of 32

Debeaking is cruel, please don't. i have hens i raised from babys and they really dont peck each other. we rescued some hens who where debeaked and the poor things had a really hard time free ranging, they could not eat treat blocks or peck and eat anything harder, they even had hard time with treats, like pumpkins, melons, i felt so sorry for the poor things

 

Wife to Wonderful Silkie Lover, Mother of 2 Teen Girls, and Chicken mama to Numerous Silkies , Spitzhaubens, MArans, Emu's and hens! One Boxer, White sheapard and My 2 LGD LOL Maltease they  love thier chickens!

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Wife to Wonderful Silkie Lover, Mother of 2 Teen Girls, and Chicken mama to Numerous Silkies , Spitzhaubens, MArans, Emu's and hens! One Boxer, White sheapard and My 2 LGD LOL Maltease they  love thier chickens!

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post #9 of 32

De-beaking is a horrible practice.

Its very painful to the chicks and they do it while they are still awake without any anesthesia.

The only real reason why de-beaking even exists it to prevent battery hens from pecking each other to death.

And they wouldn't try to peck each other to death if they weren't squish in to small cages with other chickens, where they have no space and never see daylight.

Please don't ever support de-beaking. Chickens have beaks for a reason and its very hard for them to eat without them.

 

If you ever have a problem with picking you could always use "no pick sprays" or in some desperate situation pinless peepers.

But most of the time, if they have enough space to get away, they will be fine

 

Backyard flocks are almost never de-beaked and chickens with beaks are happy chickens smile.png


Edited by foxypoproxy - 1/27/12 at 10:48am

Proud momma of 4 polish bantam chicks, 3 sizzle chicks,  and 2 bantam sultan chicks!

Kotoki, Kiseke, Sora, Derp, Cricket, Potatoe <3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RIP: Zip Chick, Kabuki, Saki, Sakura, Loki, Misha, Slate, and Silver

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Proud momma of 4 polish bantam chicks, 3 sizzle chicks,  and 2 bantam sultan chicks!

Kotoki, Kiseke, Sora, Derp, Cricket, Potatoe <3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RIP: Zip Chick, Kabuki, Saki, Sakura, Loki, Misha, Slate, and Silver

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post #10 of 32

As everyone said, two thumbs down on de-beaking. Sounds like you have enough room for six chickens. I have a similar setup for my 4 hens and I am hopefully adding 2-3 more this spring. They get along fine.

Owner of a flock of four: Buff Orphington, alpha bird. A Welsummer who thinks she's a rooster, and 2 OE's (aka The Twins). Recent additions are 3 chicks hatched 1/19/12: a french copper maran and two fluffy yellow mutts of unknown lineage.

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Owner of a flock of four: Buff Orphington, alpha bird. A Welsummer who thinks she's a rooster, and 2 OE's (aka The Twins). Recent additions are 3 chicks hatched 1/19/12: a french copper maran and two fluffy yellow mutts of unknown lineage.

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