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Oral supplements should be avoided for the first 24 hours, as they can interfere with the very essential absorption of colostrum. In selenium deficient areas an injection of BoSe is a good idea for all kids.

In ruminants(and horses) the newborn's gut is permeable to the relatively large antibodies in the colostrum. As soon as there is any material in the digestive tract, these openings start closing. There is a very small window of time for the kid to absorb the immune molecules it needs to protect it until it can develop it's own immunity. The presence of any material other than colostrum will also cause these openings to close, so give only colostrum for at least the first 24 hours.

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              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 



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post #11002 of 11360
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Oral supplements should be avoided for the first 24 hours, as they can interfere with the very essential absorption of colostrum. In selenium deficient areas an injection of BoSe is a good idea for all kids.

In ruminants(and horses) the newborn's gut is permeable to the relatively large antibodies in the colostrum. As soon as there is any material in the digestive tract, these openings start closing. There is a very small window of time for the kid to absorb the immune molecules it needs to protect it until it can develop it's own immunity. The presence of any material other than colostrum will also cause these openings to close, so give only colostrum for at least the first 24 hours.

 

 

This is my understanding: Sufficient colostrum needs to be given within the first 12 hours. Anything after that is nearly useless. The anitbody molecules are so large that the ability to pass thru the intestinal wall is almost nil after 12 hours. I was under the impression that this window closes whether or not the baby has eaten. Hence I have a foal that got 2 transfusions-$$$$$$$$$$--very expensive.

 

I think we are generally saying the same thing: Get sufficient colostrum in immediately, the sooner the better.

 

I keep frozen on hand for emergencies, a sick mother or a new mother are the most likely to have low or poor colostrum just when the babies must have colostrum . If possible, I will milk that sick/new  mother and put her colostrum in the freezer for the next one in need. So when My 10 yr old pulled out he ice cube tray today, and saw the creamy yellow ice cubes, he put it back commenting, "colostrum:"  

 

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post #11003 of 11360

I raise a filly by giving her cattle colostrum.  Her am died directly after she was born.   The owner was so upset she called and offer me the paint horse filly  2 AM  in the morning.... Told her to grow up   milk that mare and give that baby some milk....

I had just got over raising a spoil rotten paint filly of my own.  (still rotten to this day) 7 years old.  She was raised on goats milk, lots of goats milk.

Anyway not want another horse   I couldn't help it called at six in the morning to see how the filly was doing.   She hadn't done anything with the poor little filly.   The husband had pulled the mare out to bury her so wife couldn't see her...   I told her I was on the way over to get her.  With one request she would paper her if I saved her.  The answer was yes.  It was a forty mile trip over to her house.  All the way I though What am I doing????

I took my Van to put her in.   That way I could watch her while looking for some colostrum milk,  Drove to my goat milk source dairy    It was not kidding time and no milk.  They called a friend who had a milk cow dairy.   They said I could go get some there to go to the milk barn .   OK on the road again   just couple miles this time.   At the barn   no one spoke English... Finally I had the guy to follow me to the van to show him what I had.   He under stood then.   With a big smile he got me 2 five gallon buckle of fresh colostrum milk.   With his broken English he said she'll be ok now  good luck.

When I finally got home   that filly was so hungry  It took only minutes to teach her how to suck out of a bucket.  Boy was I releaved that she was strong.

I raised her on the little goats  my friends could spare and powdered low fat milk mixture some old cowboy told me about.

She grew to be a show horse   for the people I sold her to at 2 years old...

Sure hope I don't have raise another one.

To me goats milk is the best supplement feed when available for any animal...

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Love it!!  Good for you!!!!   Glad you had the gumption to deal with the baby. What was her name?

 

 

I remember my first mare giving birth, I slept in a chair complete with foot rest and TV!!!   About midnight, I"m so tired I want to snooze, but mare keeps nickering in my ear. . . . . she broke her water and went down . . . I got the msg!!!  Moved the chair, TV and foot stool out of the stall ASAP!! 

 

 

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post #11005 of 11360
The first 12 hours is the most important, but there is evidence that bathing the digestive tract with colostrum for the first several days helps improve the health of the digestive tract and head off GI infections. The reduction of absorption of colostrum happens over many hours, and does not necessarily stop at 12 hours, although it decreases rapidly after that point.

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              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 



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              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 



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The first 12 hours is the most important, but there is evidence that bathing the digestive tract with colostrum for the first several days helps improve the health of the digestive tract and head off GI infections. The reduction of absorption of colostrum happens over many hours, and does not necessarily stop at 12 hours, although it decreases rapidly after that point.


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post #11007 of 11360

Wow!  When I get my calves I am coming to you folks for advice!     thumbsup.gif

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Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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Spangled, can you show us post numbers of your bator with the eggs in it and then a pic of all of the chicks you hatched?

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Keeper of 26 hens,  4 PW Leghorns, 1 leghorn mix, 1 FBCMarans, 1 Australorp, 1 Buff Orpington, 2 Mama Olive Eggers w/ 15 chicks each, 1 EE, a Barred Rock, a RIR, a CQ, 1 Delaware, 1 Black Star, a Splash Ameraucana, 3 W/BW Ameraucana pullets, 5 polish, 2 Welsummers and 41 juvies of various breeds. YIKES!  Time to SELL some chickens!

 

 

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post #11009 of 11360

Just finished the hatch that I put in a week after this one and this time I got a 90% hatch rate!!!  Ahhhh, much better!     smile.png

Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

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New Nevada recipe pages here.

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Don't miss the new Nevada thread pages here!  These pages are in their infancy so don't hesitate to send me suggestions for additions or improvements.  Just be kind... I'm old and technologically challenged.     LOL

 

All things Nevada.

 

New Nevada recipe pages here.

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The Flapper contest ended April 6th but no winner has been announced. Did I miss something?

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