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I can so see some kid trying to get out of doing chores by quoting this rule (ignoring the bit that says they can work on family farms though)

 

post #82 of 162

Chick Chick Chicky....was not referring to you... I was referring to the article you quoted as being the ramblings of imbeciles.  Sorry if you took it the wrong way.  However, I do know how to read Federal Regulations and for better or worse, some regulation to protect children is necessary.

post #83 of 162

Putting all other issues to the side, could someone please point me to where the Constitution permits this?  We have the thing for a reason, you know, though you wouldn't know it by reading these discussions.

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post #84 of 162

The constitution doesn't explicitly allow this, however a 1941 Supreme Court ruling (see below) declared Congress indeed had the power to regulate child labor.

 

It is interesting how the courts get to decide something is in the constitution when it really isn't! And by interesting I mean grotesque and 1984-ish.

 

Supreme Court ruling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Darby_Lumber_Co.

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The constitution doesn't explicitly allow this, however a 1941 Supreme Court ruling (see below) declared Congress indeed had the power to regulate child labor.

 

It is interesting how the courts get to decide something is in the constitution when it really isn't! And by interesting I mean grotesque and 1984-ish.

 

Supreme Court ruling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Darby_Lumber_Co.

 

Yeah, I'm familiar with several similar rulings.  As I recall, the Supreme Court has basically ruled that the Feds can do whatever the heck they want by virtue of a twisted understanding of the "general welfare" and "interstate commerce" clauses, never mind that both were actually limiting.

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post #86 of 162

One thing that rambling imbeciles can see is the potential to use a law for its' unintended purposes and enrich lawyers defending oneself when said law in misapplied.

 

What profession will they "make all better"" next?

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post #87 of 162

Curious whether any Big Corporate Farms are behind this bill and supporting it? All the better for them to reduce small-family-farm competition, and to favor Big Bidness with Big Men driving Big Machinery.

post #88 of 162

Yeah "general welfare" is a good one.

 

Whose general welfare? NOT MINE! That much I can assure you...

 

The government is out of control. Although, I still stand by my previous assertion that regulating child labor is a good thing. I think that with as many ultra poor families that are out there, completely unregulated child labor would be a recipe for a lot of wasted lives. Now if the system hadn't been rigged to the advantage of the ultra rich around the time of the great depression (and even more so from the 70s to present) then I think a lot less regulation would be necessary, as families and individuals could make a choice regarding who they worked for and not be essentially forced (by poorness) into whatever work they could get.

 

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Curious whether any Big Corporate Farms are behind this bill and supporting it? All the better for them to reduce small-family-farm competition, and to favor Big Bidness with Big Men driving Big Machinery.

 

This is unlikely as it does not prohibit children from working for their own families farm, but does prohibit them from working for a large factory farm...

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post #90 of 162

We already have good working child labor laws, this is another attempt by the Obama administration to derail industry in the guise of something good but in reality a subtle attempt to garner a whole class of people and funnel them into a social program killing the traditional methods of creating hard working young adults into welfare dependants.  It is also an attack on the job creators of this country making it more inhospitable for investors to remain in America and create jobs.  I am not sure if it is intentional or not but it is working, investors are leaving the country because the business climate is under attack by new regulations like this one and the threat of higher taxes and Obama's desire for higher energy costs.

 

You run the job creators out you run the jobs out as well.

 

 

"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."

 

The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.

 

 

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"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."

 

The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.

 

 

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