Diatomaceous Earth question - Page 2

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Originally Posted by Bear Foot Farm 

 

DE has never been PROVEN to do much besides kill insects.

 

There are lots of claims about what it will do, but they can never seem to verify it in controlled laboratory testing

 

It's basically powdered ROCK, and essentially chemically INERT

 

 

here we go again but it is not powdered rock but taken from sea and lake bottoms and is silt that is broken down there and if you mean broken rock and broken down & farmed from there ok I buy that but its not that simple at all. About the claims I will not debate with you again but I have been using DE for intestinal parasite treatment for some time and just have to disagree with you but its OK for you to believe that and you are entitled to your opinion

The old DE arguement LOL. I grow organic veggies & use DE to kill bugs seems to get the job done. It usually takes a few application. Since, I have the stuff if I remember I use it when I clean the coop out or the nest boxes I'll sprinkle some around hoping to kill any tiny bugs that are lurking in the coop. So, far so good.

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Originally Posted by Bear Foot Farm 

 

DE has never been PROVEN to do much besides kill insects.

 

There are lots of claims about what it will do, but they can never seem to verify it in controlled laboratory testing

 

It's basically powdered ROCK, and essentially chemically INERT

 

 

That's a lot of ignorance in one post.

DE is not powdered rock. Diatomaceous earth is the remains of microscopic one-celled plants called diatoms that lived in the oceans and lakes, these deposits are mined from underwater beds or dried lake bottoms. They contain 15 beneficial trace minerals and silica, which gets absorbed into the blood stream, one of the benefits of silica is that it helps to destroy bad fats.

There has been countless studies done which confirm the reduction of waste order, internal parasites and better feed conversion (upwards of 20-30%), numerous other benefits were apparent as well.

There are producers, ranches, feedlots and training facilities across the country that feed DE, I know of several personally, and have seen the effects of feeding DE.

Texas A&M has done studies on the positive aspects of feeding DE.

University tests confirm DE intake in humans is associated with a significant reduction of serum cholesterol as well as low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride levels being decreased.

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Originally Posted by SteveBaz 

here we go again but it is not powdered rock but taken from sea and lake bottoms and is silt that is broken down there and if you mean broken rock and broken down & farmed from there ok I buy that but its not that simple at all. About the claims I will not debate with you again but I have been using DE for intestinal parasite treatment for some time and just have to disagree with you but its OK for you to believe that and you are entitled to your opinion

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by bowtie 

That's a lot of ignorance in one post.

 

 

 

DE is not powdered rock. Diatomaceous earth is the remains of microscopic one-celled plants called diatoms that lived in the oceans and lakes, these deposits are mined from underwater beds or dried lake bottoms. They contain 15 beneficial trace minerals and silica, which gets absorbed into the blood stream, one of the benefits of silica is that it helps to destroy bad fats.

 

There has been countless studies done which confirm the reduction of waste order, internal parasites and better feed conversion (upwards of 20-30%), numerous other benefits were apparent as well.

 

There are producers, ranches, feedlots and training facilities across the country that feed DE, I know of several personally, and have seen the effects of feeding DE.

 

Texas A&M has done studies on the positive aspects of feeding DE.

 

University tests confirm DE intake in humans is associated with a significant reduction of serum cholesterol as well as low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglyceride levels being decreased.

 

 

LOL

Parroted SALES HYPE isn't "proof", and neither are inconclusive "studies"

Let's look at some FACTS vs FANTASY:

In FACT it IS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

  The "studies" you refer to are not well done, and most of them qualify their findings by stating "MORE testing is needed".  

   Most of them aren't really "studies" at all, by anecdotal evidence that cannot be proven in a lab   

Do you REALLY think if they could PROVE DE reduces Cholesterol that they would have stopped testing after that ONE study in 1998?

 If you have more recent conclusive proof,, I'd love to see it.

    I know you don't though, and you'll offer up the same one's that have been used before, and don't actuallly reach a definite conclusion     

The fact that people use it is not proof that it actually works

It's just cut and paste rhetoric from those who sell it

Silica is INERT, and passes through the body unchanged:

http://www.reade.com/contact/659

Bear Foot Farm,

Why is so important to  make so many people wrong? Every time this topic comes up here you go and spam everyone. Why isn't it OK for others to have their opinion and you to have your's.

Cant believe why you can't disagree to agree to make it Win Win. Best of luck to you. No fight here I just believe what I want.

Bear Foot..

On DE:  http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/benefits-of/diatomaceous-earth

             http://www.naturalnews.com/030688_Diatomaceous_earth_health.html

On silica: http://www.evolutionhealth.com/Minerals/silica-benefits.html

REFERENCES:

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Originally Posted by SteveBaz 

Bear Foot Farm,

 

Why is so important to  make so many people wrong? Every time this topic comes up here you go and spam everyone. Why isn't it OK for others to have their opinion and you to have your's.

Cant believe why you can't disagree to agree to make it Win Win. Best of luck to you. No fight here I just believe what I want.

I don't "make " anyone wrong.

They do that to themselves when they make claims that aren't factual

I'm not talking about "opinions"

I'm talking about scientific facts

You're still free to "believe" anything you like.

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Originally Posted by Bear Foot Farm 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001191/

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Silicosis is a respiratory disease caused by breathing in (inhaling) silica dust.

 

Silicosis is not an issue with food grade DE. It can and has been an issue for workers manufacturing industrial grade DE. People who spend 8-10 hours a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for many years, breathing in stirred up industrial grade DE. A dust mask is recommended when working with larger quantities of DE, but not for silicosis. Just like any particulate, including dirt, farm dust, air pollution, pollen, etc., the dust from DE can irritate the lungs.
 

You say DE "isn't powdered rock", and I've proven it in fact is nothing BUT rock

All your references are from those who SELL DE, just as I said they would be.

You're falling for the sales hype, and not READING what the studies actually say 

Did you READ your sources?

One of them is the same one I used to prove to you it is actually rock.