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Bielefelders?

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Does anyone out therer have experience with Bieleflders or know of a breeder in the U.S.?

My chicken encyclopedia makes this out to be a great breed in every aspect.

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Yes, I've seen them and they're impressive birds.  Very large with bright yellow legs, they have the legbar feather color pattern that makes them auto-sexing, and they lay large dark brown eggs (about a 4 on the marans egg color chart).  They are a calm breed.  The ultimate in German chicken engineering. 

The avatar is an ayam cemani chick hatched on our farm.

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Isn't Gold Legbar another name for Crele?

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I am still confused on the term Crele.  Several people have corrected me in the way I have it defined.  The corrections have not been consistent which adds to the confusion, but I think that I might be getting close to the having this right now. 

 

My understanding is that Crele is a bird with a Partridge primary color pattern (eb/eb) with sex-linked barring (B/B, B/+).  Examples are found in the Penedesenca and Old English Game breeds.  The females are a lightly barred brown bird with a gold hackle.  Males are a white double barred bird with red shoulders and saddle feathers.

 

The Gold Legbar hens have the salmon colored breast feathers, so I don't think it would be considered a true Crele.  I however have seen Crele used by people to describe about every breed with a black breasted red rooster (eWh, e+, eb, Er) regardless of whether the males are single barred (B/b+) or double barred (B/B).   

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I can't help you with the definition but for reference here are my hatchery OEGB creles. Breeder's creles will look sharper more black less grey
 

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1 Awesome Husband, 8 Wonderful Kids, (down to 2 under 18)   Cooper the roo,3 mixed girls 2  EE's, +2 half cochins ,6 crele oegb 

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These look correct to me.  Very Pretty birds too.  Thanks for sharing. 

 

A single barred male will have more black less grey, but only double barred birds will breed true.

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