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post #21 of 113
2/15/12 at 9:15am


 

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Originally Posted by OldGuy43 View Post

I normally don't post one right after the other, but in this case I'll make an exception. If it had been only Rush I too would have questioned it. The second link http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria-nuggets.html did contain details that led me to believe that this report was on the level.



Thanks *wanders off to read the link*

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post #22 of 113
2/15/12 at 9:25am

I do not completely agree with the  USDA guideline on all food must contain wheat, cheese, protein and a fruit or a veggie.

 

There are allergies to think about. Plus we do not need as much protein and carbs based on grains (Especially over processed carbs) as much as we, as Americans (I can't speak for the other countries), generally eat. 

 

Even fruits need to be limited at times, depending on the child's nutritional needs.

 

 

I go days without large amounts grain based carbs and very little protein and instead eat large amounts of various vegetables (you can get protein from vegetables and from grains) and fruits.

 

I eat even less wheat. I grow amaranth and flint corn that I supplement my grain needs with along with oats, flax, and quinua. I doubt those USDA inspectors would know what the heck those grains were.

 

It largely comes down to each persons individual needs. But then that's just my two cents.


Edited by KristyHall - 2/15/12 at 10:04am

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post #23 of 113
2/15/12 at 9:59am

So many points well put here.  I'm not going to say much since my abilties to speak about such things is really bad, and ppl tend to think ill of me afterward.  So I'll just say X2!

 

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Originally Posted by KristyHall View Post

I do not completely agree with the  USDA guideline on all food must contain wheat, cheese, protein and a fruit or a veggie.

 

There are allergies to think about. Plus we do not need as much protein and carbs based on grains (Especially over processed carbs) as much as we, as Americans, generally eat. 

 

Even fruits need to be limited at times, depending on the child's nutritional needs.

 

 

I go days without large amounts grain based carbs and very little protein and instead eat large amounts of various vegetables (you can get protein from vegetables and from grains) and fruits.

 

I eat even less wheat. I grow amaranth and flint corn that I supplement my grain needs with along with oats, flax, and quinua. I doubt those USDA inspectors would know what the heck those grains were.

 

It largely comes down to each persons individual needs. But then that's just my two cents.



 

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post #24 of 113
2/15/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by OldGuy43 View Post

I normally don't post one right after the other, but in this case I'll make an exception. If it had been only Rush I too would have questioned it. The second link http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria-nuggets.html did contain details that led me to believe that this report was on the level.



 



Quote:
Originally Posted by KristyHall View Post

I do not completely agree with the  USDA guideline on all food must contain wheat, cheese, protein and a fruit or a veggie.

 

There are allergies to think about. Plus we do not need as much protein and carbs based on grains (Especially over processed carbs) as much as we, as Americans (I can't speak for the other countries), generally eat. 

 

Even fruits need to be limited at times, depending on the child's nutritional needs.

 

 

I go days without large amounts grain based carbs and very little protein and instead eat large amounts of various vegetables (you can get protein from vegetables and from grains) and fruits.

 

I eat even less wheat. I grow amaranth and flint corn that I supplement my grain needs with along with oats, flax, and quinua. I doubt those USDA inspectors would know what the heck those grains were.

 

It largely comes down to each persons individual needs. But then that's just my two cents.


 


My whole point of this post was to point out that if the government doesn't

want you to have it, it Will take it away.  And we will have no choice in the matter,

unless we speak OUT LOUD now!

 

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post #25 of 113
2/15/12 at 11:00am
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Originally Posted by cravenchx View PostMy whole point of this post was to point out that if the government doesn't

want you to have it, it Will take it away.  And we will have no choice in the matter,

unless we speak OUT LOUD now!

 

Agreed!
 

 

OldGuy43

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All of our money is invested in T Bills.

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post #26 of 113
2/15/12 at 11:38am

This isn't some huge government conspiracy, it is some popinjay that overstepped their bounds.  It is someone who obviously didn't know their job well enough to know that the kid's lunch was better than the school's.

 

The DISTRICT OFFICIAL, according to the news report, said that the person went overboard and that the kid's lunch was perfectly fine.

 

Anyone who works in an institutional kitchen knows that meals have to meet minimum government nutritional guidelines.  That is every kitchen serving food to a confined group...jails, nursing homes, hospitals, schools, group homes, etc.  These rules exist for very good reasons, specifically dealing with food wholesomeness and patient/student/etc nutrition.  Taking away the lunch was an egregious act by a single individual, not the failure of a policy.

 

Blaming the entire government bureaucracy for this is the same as blaming the entire military for soldiers urinating on war dead.  It's silly, useless, and disproportionate.

 

Yes, as a parent I would have raised a stink that they would be smelling to the moon, but it wouldn't be directed at the policy.  It would be directed at the IDIOT who took my kid's food, and the absolute idiot who hired him/her.


Edited by mom'sfolly - 2/15/12 at 11:40am

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see, prions really are eating my brain

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I'm a little teapot.....

 

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post #27 of 113
2/15/12 at 12:26pm
Thread Starter 

What gave the inspector the RIGHT to check private property?

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post #28 of 113
2/15/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by mom'sfolly View Post

This isn't some huge government conspiracy, it is some popinjay that overstepped their bounds.  It is someone who obviously didn't know their job well enough to know that the kid's lunch was better than the school's.

 

The DISTRICT OFFICIAL, according to the news report, said that the person went overboard and that the kid's lunch was perfectly fine.

 

Anyone who works in an institutional kitchen knows that meals have to meet minimum government nutritional guidelines.  That is every kitchen serving food to a confined group...jails, nursing homes, hospitals, schools, group homes, etc.  These rules exist for very good reasons, specifically dealing with food wholesomeness and patient/student/etc nutrition.  Taking away the lunch was an egregious act by a single individual, not the failure of a policy.

 

Blaming the entire government bureaucracy for this is the same as blaming the entire military for soldiers urinating on war dead.  It's silly, useless, and disproportionate.

 

Yes, as a parent I would have raised a stink that they would be smelling to the moon, but it wouldn't be directed at the policy.  It would be directed at the IDIOT who took my kid's food, and the absolute idiot who hired him/her.



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post #29 of 113
2/15/12 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by mom'sfolly View Post

This isn't some huge government conspiracy, it is some popinjay that overstepped their bounds.  It is someone who obviously didn't know their job well enough to know that the kid's lunch was better than the school's. Yes, as a parent I would have raised a stink that they would be smelling to the moon, but it wouldn't be directed at the policy.  It would be directed at the IDIOT who took my kid's food, and the absolute idiot who hired him/her.


 

Originally Posted by cravenchx View Post

What gave the inspector the RIGHT to check private property?

 

I agree, this is not a "huge government conspiracy", but that doesn't mean the agency being represented should not be held responsible for something done by one of it's employees.

 

I also agree with cravenchx! It is a matter of the policy and its implementation that is the source of this problem. It's the USDA vs. parental rights. By what right does the US Department of Agriculture tell parents what they can and can't feed their children? This is not an isolated incident. It's symptomatic of big brother run amok. Watch a movie named "Demolition Man" to see where this sort of thing can lead.

OldGuy43

When evaluating data one should always consider the source and remember, no one wants to make illegal that which he wants to do.

 

All of our money is invested in T Bills.

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OldGuy43

When evaluating data one should always consider the source and remember, no one wants to make illegal that which he wants to do.

 

All of our money is invested in T Bills.

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post #30 of 113
2/15/12 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by gickelvolk View Post

The "Inspector" had NO BUSINESS intruding on this family's PRIVATE PROPERTY....... The lunch sent with this child was PRIVATE PROPERTY!

 

When the public allows itself to be subservient to UN-ELECTED bureaucrats, the country has cuckolded the Constitution!

 

DEMAND an accounting for this! This action was OUTRAGEOUS, UNCALLED FOR, and another vulgar intrusion on the liberties of a citizen's judgment on how best to provide for the nutrition of their child!

 

WAKE UP AND DEMAND THIS GOVERNMENT BACK OFF OF INTRUDING ON OUR LIBERTIES!

 

If you can't bring yourself to do it just remember this quote:

 

 

 

If lunch is private property then why do school officials have the right to confiscate phones and other electronic devices?
 

 

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