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post #261 of 334

This is a good thread.  My largest quail is only 9.2 oz at 45 days.  It seems I need to get good quality blood line.  Does anyone nice enough to share me some eggs?

post #262 of 334

I then raised the birds from the FD V3/6/12 hatch & the Moby V3/19/12 hatch, and weighed & recorded the weekly weights & progress of the birds looking for birds that meet the standards set for them to be considered "Tatankas". In the beginning I didn't have a scale & went out & purchased one that weighed in grams knowing that I would have to have one, having a scale that weighs in grams is a very important & a need to have item for anyone that is serious about raising quail IMHO, Photos will follow of the weights at various stages of growth,

for both hatches.

Dennis Thomas

 

Raising Jumbo Coturnix Meat Class Quail (American Pharaoh / Texas A&M / James Marie Pharaoh / Tatanka Line)
Raising Buckeye Chickens and am a proud member of the American Buckeye Club (ABC)
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Dennis Thomas

 

Raising Jumbo Coturnix Meat Class Quail (American Pharaoh / Texas A&M / James Marie Pharaoh / Tatanka Line)
Raising Buckeye Chickens and am a proud member of the American Buckeye Club (ABC)
buckeyechickenchat.com
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post #263 of 334

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I then raised the birds from the FD V3/6/12 hatch & the Moby V3/19/12 hatch, and weighed & recorded the weekly weights & progress of the birds looking for birds that meet the standards set for them to be considered "Tatankas". In the beginning I didn't have a scale & went out & purchased one that weighed in grams knowing that I would have to have one, having a scale that weighs in grams is a very important & a need to have item for anyone that is serious about raising quail IMHO, Photos will follow of the weights at various stages of growth,

for both hatches.

Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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post #264 of 334

That (a scale) was first on my list of things to get... Will be here before my eggs :). I see that the Tatankas are both brown and white. I'm not really interested in the whites or any color variations at the moment. How do you sex the whites?

 

Thanks,

J

post #265 of 334

Oh, and one more question. Has anyone devised a way to tag a ziplock band with a number?
 

post #266 of 334

once they are laying u can tell really easy... look on youtube for vent sexing coturnix quail...

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That (a scale) was first on my list of things to get... Will be here before my eggs :). I see that the Tatankas are both brown and white. I'm not really interested in the whites or any color variations at the moment. How do you sex the whites?

 

Thanks,

J

Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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post #267 of 334
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awesome pics and record keeping, very worthy steward, that is all...

 

 

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Moby chicks V3/19/12, 6-days old

TD Tatanka Chicks born 3-19-12 (6-days old) 002.jpgTD Tatanka Chicks born 3-19-12 (6-days old) 003.jpgTD Tatanka Chicks born 3-19-12 (6-days old) 004.jpgTD Tatanka Chicks born 3-19-12 (6-days old) 005.jpg

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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post #268 of 334

I got a Eatsmart Kitchen pro http://www.amazon.com/EatSmart-Precision-Digital-Kitchen-Silver/dp/B001N07KUE .  It is a very good scale.  You can weigh in oz, lb, gram, kilogram.

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Wanting to start a thread where breeders and owners of the little brown Quail we like to call "Tatanka" can post pics and videos of their birds and projects.

Comments are welcome however "bashing" will not be tolerated.

I will document my project crossing white coturnix with brown coturnix. These birds are the F2 crosses.

The P1 birds were brown and white.

The F1 birds were brown

The F2 birds are white and brown.

The F2 white and brown coturnix have the same genetics (parents), will be weighing and taking pics of them here as they grow to see if feather coloring really makes a difference, between the white and the brown japanese meat quail.

Along the way, I will document breeding, incubating, hatching, brooding, feeding and the processing of Japanese Quail for meat.

stating the goal.

"Tatanka" raising the Standard...Jumbo Coturnix (Japanese Quail)

BEAK:  slightly curved not flat.
EYES:  expressive, green.
HEAD:  large, wide. square when viewed from top.
NECK: thick, slight arch.
WINGS:  fairly small
BREAST:  prominent, full, well defined.
BODY: similar to other poultry meat birds, "like a brick" a fuller and longer fowl to increase egg-laying capacity and to produce a frame with more meat for commercial purposes.
BACK: breadth across the back is a desirable trait.
LEGS: well muscled thigh. strong to support weight.
FEET AND TOES: (4) evenly spaced, long toes
FEATHERING: rough feathering is common in larger specimens.

EGGS: greater than > 14 grams.

 


WEIGHTS: All birds male and female must weigh 280 grams by 42 days.

looks like these are the numbers we are shooting for:

Daddy, Digger & Moby Standards of Quailism

14 days ~80g
21 days ~130g
28 days ~200g
42 days = 280g+


Fat Daddy Clause
56 days ~350+

current colors:
Brown (Wild Type)


color projects:
Splits (brown with recessive white)
White Wings
Whites

will continue to edit this as general guidelines.


So is there going to be a brown and a white Tatanka or all brown. I'm a bit confused. What was the goal in the original cross to white birds. Are the stewards mixing with their lines or just line breeding Tatankas?

post #270 of 334

its kind of up to the steward... there is brown and white and soon hopefully 2 or 3 of us will be working with the red colors... we all keep each other posted on what we are up to and get peer review on everything...

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So is there going to be a brown and a white Tatanka or all brown. I'm a bit confused. What was the goal in the original cross to white birds. Are the stewards mixing with their lines or just line breeding Tatankas?

Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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