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 To all who disagree with the use of the word, Art, what word would you use?  What is art, but a finely applied technique, perfected through repitition and refinment? Whether it be the art of the hunt, the kill, the skinning, the curing, the butchering, or the cooking. Being an artisan doesn't mean wearing a beret, sipping wine and talking Monet or VanGogh all day.



Good point.   But when somebody is an accomplished hunter, butcher, or chef,  I call it a skill.  When I see a hunter bring down a moose or bear with one bullet or arrow,  I don't think,  "Wow!  What an Artist!"  I think,  "Dang!  That dude or dudette can shoot!" Now,  if this same person used a camera to get his shot,  I'd think,  "Dang!  That took incredible skill!  However,  if the same person painted a picture of a moose or bear and rendered a fine reproduction I'd think,  "What an artist!"

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Married to the old dude, 0 human kids, 2 horses, 10 cockatiels, 2 parakeets, 1 sun conure, 1 amazon parrot,  1 eccentric peacock, 1 gsd, 1 pet terrapin, 1 Blue Copper Maran rooster, and 14 world famous Jersey Giants!

 

 

Stan the Man will be missed.

 

 

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post #32 of 38
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Good point.   But when somebody is an accomplished hunter, butcher, or chef,  I call it a skill.  When I see a hunter bring down a moose or bear with one bullet or arrow,  I don't think,  "Wow!  What an Artist!"  I think,  "Dang!  That dude or dudette can shoot!" Now,  if this same person used a camera to get his shot,  I'd think,  "Dang!  That took incredible skill!  However,  if the same person painted a picture of a moose or bear and rendered a fine reproduction I'd think,  "What an artist!"


 I consider myself an artisan in almost everything I do, simply because my mind is always looking for a way to improve it, whether it's finishing sheetrock, painting, carpentry, concrete, building a fire or improving the speed with which I can effeciently slaughter a chicken.

 

 Much of what passes for "Art" in today's public eye, is done by relative amatuers...Just because they got a $100,000 govt. grant to ugly up a public space, to the abhorrance of the majority of society doesn't make it art, or them an artist.
 

 

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My comment is really going to raise some eyebrows.

 

Alrighty then.....please keep your cool.  This is going to me my work of 'ART'.

 

I'm going to display a few  unwanted stray puppies from the animal shelter.  Allow folks to play with them and when the pups' time is up,  I am going to show people how dogs are euthanized.  This will be a public display for all to watch.  Then I will lay the bodies out for viewing.

 

I'm sure this will enrage many people on this forum.  But hey!  This is art!  I've created strong emotions in people.  Maybe a few dog owners will be encourage to spay and neuter their pets.  I hope I get an 'A' in my class. 

 

 

 

You folks know I would never do such a thing.  Some art should be displayed privately.  And to be perfectly honest,  I did make a video explaining how dogs and cats are euthanized for my speech class.  What drugs are used.  What to expect, and  tips on how to deal with the grief of losing a pet. I used animals donated by the animal shelter.  I made an 'A'.




already been done.    I don't have the link right now.  And in the end the dog I am thinking of was saved. But the point of the artist was to raise awareness and that is what happened.   And there was an artist in a South American(?) country that starved a dog to death as "art"

 

Actually, I think it is a good idea.  Any dog that isn't claimed - the old, the ugly, the unwanted.  Let people see what is happening.

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I think its a great idea.  When we got interested in keeping chooks again years ago (I had kept them previously but pre-kids), we explained to our kids that the hens would provide eggs and excess roos would provide meat for us.  DS stated he had no interest in participating in that side of things.  We told him that if he felt that way, he should stop eating meat, because it doesn't get manufactured onto those styrofoam trays in the supermarket.  He thought on that for awhile and then agreed with us. 

 

There are way too many people who are quite willing to eat meat but have no idea of how it actually gets onto that styrofoam tray in the supermarket - it sounds to me like this artist is only trying to raise awareness and bring people back in touch with reality.  We're really not that far - only 2-3 generations - from people who didn't have access to the convenience of food like we do.

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Enjoying my 10-acres of country heaven with 50+ chickens, turkeys and muscovy ducks!

 

Read about my fox attack here

Read a fox attack survival story here

How to build a hoop house in 10 easy steps here

 

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post #35 of 38
Lawrence is so passé : http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/aug/22/fowl-go-from-coop-to-cooker/

Classes instituted after `Chicken Ordinance' passed in Columbia. (will remain `out' in the County, regardless...).
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Not trying to offend anyone but where do you find these people who don't know about chicken farms or where the meat at the grocery comes from?

 



They are everywhere.  The farm next door to us does tours, mainly for school groups, but they welcome anyone to come on one of their tours.  I can't count the number of times kids have failed to recognize an animal for what it was.  They have called an appaloosa horse a zebra, and a teacher once told the kids she brought that we get cotton from sheep!  We do tours at our farm as well, but only on request, not as a part of our business.  Lots of people have come because they want their kids to realize how their food gets to their table.  Many kids who go to the farm next door have never seen a chicken or a cow in real life.  They don't realize that potatoes and carrots grow in the ground or that tomatoes grow on a vine.  There are lots and lots of people who aren't connected at all to their food.  I have no problem with someone drawing attention to this issue and calling it "art".  Good for them!

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Heather, Homeschooling Mom to two boys, two dogs, 13 layers, hundreds of meaties; turkeys, steers, goats, and sheep!
We raise chicken, turkey, lamb, and beef for sale.  PM me if you live in Southern California and are interested in organically grown, pasture fed chicken, turkey, lamb, or beef.

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post #37 of 38
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Originally Posted by ivan3 View Post

Lawrence is so passé : http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/aug/22/fowl-go-from-coop-to-cooker/
Classes instituted after `Chicken Ordinance' passed in Columbia. (will remain `out' in the County, regardless...).


Ha!! Don't you lump me or my town with this project! lau.gif gig.gif

 

We have all sorts of things going on here that help folks learn about where their food comes from, and we have a great local food movement. We even have a fabulous bunch of restaurants that serve mostly locally produced, healthy, ethical food. 

 

I just don't know about this as a public art installation. I like the idea of doing this public presentation of them as they really are, however the slaughter in public seems like it will only set off other feelings and detract from the idea that they are individual animals with personalities.

 

 

 

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               ৲(⎠    ~Renée~ *MyHints* NPIP&AI 48-0346 Incubation Cheat Sheet ~t~ SickPage ~f~

 (`-.     _.-⎠̸   I dream of a society in which no one questions a chicken's motive for road crossing. 

*` (_.}  ,' Orp~Amerau~d'Uccle~Konza~Aubergine~Silkie~BantyCochin~Chantecler~Marans~Rock~Pea

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post #38 of 38

Wouldn't call it ART.......even though it is a art to have the knownledge  to be able to do all the step from chicks to butchering and packaging .

 

we need this done at every school,.

 

It really is so sad , that people in this country have no idea where their food comes from'

 

I have seen grown men, that can NOT tell the different of a chicken and a duck..TRUE STORY. I learn before i started to school , how chicken, hogs , and etc where butchered for meat.

 

Ask around some of the city , where bacon comes from, even if they know it from a hog, bet a lot will not know what part.  another true story had a boss at work talked about Jowl Bacon, i said you know that come from a hog head right , he said no way, yes its the jaws of the hog.....i had to show him on the internet to prove my point.

 

i all way make a point when people are eating ham........so you like pig's a**  

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