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2 week old Turkey with apparent white fungus around vent

post #1 of 8
3/27/12 at 5:43pm
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We have 5- 2 week old Turkeys. I found one which was attacked by the others last night in the brooder. Its been stripped of 1/2 its left wing feathers, left side of body down & has obvious bite/peck marks on it. I washed it with a mild soap/water. Applied Neosporin to its wounds. The seperated it from the others. It is up, eating/drinking etc. Another 1 has a naked area around its vent leaking light brown oozing stool & what appears to be a film of white funus around the vent and surrounding area. I seperated this one also away from the rest. It is up, eating/drinking . I have been using apple cider in their water since I have gotten. ny suggestions?

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post #2 of 8
3/27/12 at 11:33pm
Welcome to BYC. Sorry you are having these problems. What kind of feed (percentage of protein?) are they getting? How much room in brooder per poult? What is the temp. in the brooder? I'd stop using any form of acetic acid (vinegar) in their water. Vinegar will suppress both beneficial and harmful flora in the the upper GI tract and isn't necessary.

The one with the `fungus' around vent - Try cleaning area by using very weak mix of betadine and warm water (should look like weak tea small spray bottle comes in handy)- I'd wonder, since the other poult was picked at, if this wasn't the result of picking as well (does any of the `fungus' come away if daubed at with a q-tip? I'd wonder about exposed tissue.from vent pecking). Area can be sprayed with Blu-Kote (or sprayed with betadine `tea' and daubed with a thin layer of plain Neosporin).

Augment the feed with crushed hard boiled eggs and meal worms. Of course, keep injured ones separated. Picking can be caused by crowding/high temp (increased activity), lack of proper feed, other poults recognizing `defect' in others (unlikely).

Keep a close eye out for remaining uninjured poult that is pecking at the others (separate it).

Good luck!
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post #3 of 8
3/28/12 at 12:59am
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Thank you for responding, They are in a large 50 gal oblong tote with the lighting heating to approx. 95%. They are on 22% nature wise meat bird crumble.  Until this event everyone of them appeared content and healthy.  After posting this problem I offered both Poults. Egg yolk & yogurt mix. The attacked bird ate some but prefers the crumble. I re-applied the antibiotic oint. it is pooping normally. The other Poult now has a slightly protuding bottom in addition to its other symptoms. I soaked its rump in warm water and removed some fecal material, applied some anitbiotic oint then a dab of olive oil. it is unchanged at this time and appears to not have had a bowel movement of any kind. it is standing around in its box. I have been all over this site and it looks like an infected vent to me. I will do the betadine spray etc if  it makes it. The other 3 poults are sleeping together etc as usual.

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post #4 of 8
3/28/12 at 7:16am
Feed whole, finely crushed, hard boiled egg, alone or with meal worms (no yogurt). Although they will develop on 22% protein, they thrive on 28-30%. Wild poults pretty much get that by a nearly insect only diet. Higher protein is, of course, pretty much the rule for the injured.

If it is warm enough, at your location, get a lidded container and go on a moth and bug hunt. Don't be too worried about the size of the bug:

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Try the Bacitracin/Neosporin around vent (as I said - minimal but thorough coverage. So long as the cloaca doesn't evert (turn inside-out) it should heal up.
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post #5 of 8
3/28/12 at 8:40am
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Ive been up 1/2 the night looking for answers. It looks like pic's & descriptions Ive seen or read appears to be vent gleet.

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post #6 of 8
3/28/12 at 12:55pm
If you have a understanding doc or vet, Nystatin suspension is a handy med to keep in the fridge. Did the pics/turk's vent look like this? http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/315248/vent-gleet-help-pics

Had they all been getting the vinegar in the water since they arrived? Poults/chicks have no need for this.

You could try the yogurt mixed with the Nystatin. Though some suggest use of vinegar in treatment of this in older birds, this is an unusual condition for only one poult to develop in a group of similarly fed/cared for birds, I'd stop the vinegar addition to the water.

Genetian Violet could be useful as well (painting affected area around vent:) http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/472662/vent-gleet-need-nystatin-sources

Wish you luck! (don't get many posts about this condition in poults); think you should be able to upload pics - just not post them - if you do upload a shot of the vent area I think I should be able to post it for you - not sure about limitations on such on this new platform we're on.

By the way, use the advanced search on BYC it is very good (read through this thread for info on use), should be able to get some sleep smile.png: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/639702/problems-with-the-search-since-the-migration
Edited by ivan3 - 3/28/12 at 1:10pm
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post #7 of 8
3/28/12 at 1:13pm
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They had been getting the vinegar water on & off for the past week. Depending on who was watering them. it has ceased. I have diflucan 200mg tabs on hand and monistat cream or suppositories.

I could probably wrestle up some nystatin swish. His rear looks like the pic with the exception of its vent being open & impacted with feces. It tries to poop. But it ends up drizzling out around the impaction. It's remaining an active poult.

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post #8 of 8
3/28/12 at 1:26pm
Diflucan, excellent (know the stuff well, unfortunately). If it is easy to visualize the margins of the fecal impaction (no problem differentiating poop from flesh, You could probably use tweezers to crush bits of poop in place and rinse pick away. I think some folks have had some luck with monistat cream but the Diflucan/Nystatin should clear it up (Nystatin on meal worms would be a treat I'd think - will eat moving `food' when they won't touch anything else).

Again, best of luck - turk is in good hands!
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