Originally Posted by bbhorsefly
Originally Posted by Chris09
I look at it like this, IF your feed isn't performing like you would like it to then it isn't the feed for you and one should either find a better feed or mix your own.
I mix my own weed, it is a combination of a Mazuri feed, a grain mix that I posted earlier and a few other supplements and it works great for me and my fowl.
Or, obviously, FERMENT it. Do you have some sort of pride issue? The concept that your grain mix could be improved by fermenting seems to have you balking. It seems odd to me you refusing to ferment it because "it works for me," because that denies your flock all benefits with no evidence. Sure, I had just finished a "no waste" homemade feeder and had quite happily been feeding my flock a pellet whenI stumbled on fermentation and that rendered all my current food efficiency upgrades moot, but I tried it. And, wow! What could be better than a great mix that provides for them nutritionally and that they eat just fine? Fermenting it and using less to get better results! They run for it an gobble it with gusto and eat less while showing all signs of better health. The smell factor alone is worth the buckets and water mixing. You just make it seem like you have a pride that's preventing you from actually having an experience informed opinion because you refuse to believe any improvement could be made on your current perfection.
If you want the truth I don't see the point fermenting a already good feed/ feed mix and possibly depleting nutrition that they need OR increasing ones they don't need as much of. The other thing I don't see is fermenting feed that is going to be fed to a animal that already ferments its own feed.
Now when these people talk about how great fermented feed is for poultry and they talk about all the "studies" do they talk about the side affects, like that some poultry carry a genetic defect that gives there eggs a fishy smell when there feed is overly fermented?
i.e. when you ferment the feed than the chicken re-ferments the feed in there digestive track.
How about there are some depilation of some vitamins when feed/ foods are fermented?
i.e. vitamin B12 is reduced in some feed ingredients / foods like dairy products when it is fermented.
As for your chickens gobbling it up eating less and showing signs of better health.
Gobbling up there feed just means there hungry not that it is any better for them.
Eating less like I said before, just means that the feed is higher in caloric energy than before. Chickens eat to fill there caloric need, not to fill there stomach, because something is better tasting or better for them.
Showing signs of better health? What signs are you looking at, feathers, skin color, how about proper body weight or the birds production?