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Why add back orp to lavender?

post #1 of 7
4/14/12 at 3:25pm
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I have two lavender orpingtons and I have done some research on the breeding of them. I understand that a lavender to lavender makes more lavneders. Lavender to split black makes 50/50, lavender bred to non-split black makes 100% split black and so on. What I don't understand is why blacks are bred to the lavenders. I am thinking that they help with the type, yes? I am wondering if this is needs to be done when breeding lavenders? Thanks.

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post #2 of 7
4/14/12 at 3:39pm

I dont breed lavender orpingtons, but from what Ive seen, lavender orpingtons need a lot of help in the type department.  Theres a lot of really excellent black orpingtons.  Theres few, if any good lavender orpingtons.  Unfortunately it is one of those breeds that everyone is breeding, but no one is paying attention to type.  So we now have a lot of people with these lavender chickens that dont resemble orpingtons.  Seems the breed is no further along than it was when it was started.  Breeding back to quality blacks should improve them, if people will pay attention to what they continue to breed.

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4/14/12 at 6:25pm
Also, if lav orps are anything like lav silkies, hatching is more of a trial when bred lav to lav than when bred lav to split for lav.

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post #4 of 7
4/14/12 at 6:27pm
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I dont breed lavender orpingtons, but from what Ive seen, lavender orpingtons need a lot of help in the type department.  Theres a lot of really excellent black orpingtons.  Theres few, if any good lavender orpingtons.  Unfortunately it is one of those breeds that everyone is breeding, but no one is paying attention to type.  So we now have a lot of people with these lavender chickens that dont resemble orpingtons.  Seems the breed is no further along than it was when it was started.  Breeding back to quality blacks should improve them, if people will pay attention to what they continue to breed.



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Agreed word per word.

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post #5 of 7
4/15/12 at 6:26am


 

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I dont breed lavender orpingtons, but from what Ive seen, lavender orpingtons need a lot of help in the type department.  Theres a lot of really excellent black orpingtons.  Theres few, if any good lavender orpingtons.  Unfortunately it is one of those breeds that everyone is breeding, but no one is paying attention to type.  So we now have a lot of people with these lavender chickens that dont resemble orpingtons.  Seems the breed is no further along than it was when it was started.  Breeding back to quality blacks should improve them, if people will pay attention to what they continue to breed.


X3, I agree 100%.

I will also add that not only does the Self Blue Orpingtons have less than ideal body type but they also have less than ideal feather quality.

 

 

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post #6 of 7
4/15/12 at 6:38am
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I dont breed lavender orpingtons, but from what Ive seen, lavender orpingtons need a lot of help in the type department.  Theres a lot of really excellent black orpingtons.  Theres few, if any good lavender orpingtons.  Unfortunately it is one of those breeds that everyone is breeding, but no one is paying attention to type.  So we now have a lot of people with these lavender chickens that dont resemble orpingtons.  Seems the breed is no further along than it was when it was started.  Breeding back to quality blacks should improve them, if people will pay attention to what they continue to breed.

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I've seen very, very few Lav. Orps that I'd have. Most indeed don't anything like an Orp.

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post #7 of 7
4/15/12 at 7:56am
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I see what ya'll mean now. That makes sense.

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