Sorry that I didn't make myself clear....the dog that was #5 in the country was the dog that would allow baby rabbits to sleep on his back. He was not just a show dog but a well trained show dog plus a much loved licensed therapy dog. Not a mean, predatory bone in his body. That was merely a comment to show that my dogs are trained and that I'm not afraid of the work it takes to make it happen.
The dogs I have now are that well trained but, are of a different temperament. You have to be able to read your dog and know what is/isn't safe. I have sick chickens and/or chicks in my house with the dogs all the time. They do not hurt/bother them. They know that the house and the chickens are mine. I've never had one touch a chicken. That being said, the yard is a different story. The dogs believe that is their territory. If the chickens would run, the dogs will chase. Their prey drive is high. They would kill. I will keep my place as I believe it is safest and everyone else can do the same.
I just hate seeing people have their animals hurt/injured by one of their own and their reactions to it. The OP was very upset and wanted to hurt her puppy for what it had done. I have seen animals euthanized for less and I sometimes just don't understand why people want to take that kind of risk.
The dog you speak unkindly of was so well trained that I could call him off the back of a ***** in heat...Sorry, but you struck a nerve by commenting negatively on a dog that was the best animal that I ever had the pleasure of being owned by.
Please remember that not all dog breeds are bred to do exactly what you say and every time. Most working dogs think for themselves and if they believe that they know better then you, then, guess what, they follow their heads.
My dogs share a building with my chickens. Dog kennels on one side, chicken coop on the other. A two foot hall is all that separates them. They don't even look at the chickens, or, they just wag their tails at them. Would I turn them loose in the yard together? Never. Why? Chickens run, dogs chase. Even my cat knows this. He will walk all over the dogs, sleep in their kennels and they don't care. But, every once in a while the cat gets a gleam in his eye and runs willy nilly and the dogs give chase. He loves it, they love it. The cat knows to stop running, the chickens would not.
Originally Posted by Ole rooster
Man, what a difference of ideas on training dogs and temperment. I find some of them a little confusing. Such a " why concern yourself that dogs and chickens run together". Now mind you I don't have a # 5 rated dog in the country. But to me and what I want, Morgan is #1. Naw, the chickens ain't his friends, but he know they are not toys to play with either. If the chickens are ranging all day and Morgan's outside all day, what a mess I would have if he didn't know what I expect, but then he's just a mutt. Some kind of herding dog mix, I think. I've had Dobermans and Samoyeds from championship lines. But Morgan is the best of the lot. If he does something I don't want, all I have to do is grunt and it's over. That's the end of it.
I'll have to say, someone can have an obedience trained animal and he can still be out of control if there is no respect between master and dog. If you have a dog trained and is #5 in the nation in catagory and still wants to kill chickens, you don't have a very well trained dog. You have a show dog and that's where he need to stay. In the show ring.
It just all matters in what you want. If one wants to show dogs and not work on the chickens aspect, then so be it. If one wants dog and chickens to co-mingle, then that's good too. Me, I demand any dog of mine do what I say when I say, even if he's a mutt. He is not allowed to have his head unless we are in position that I feel is ok and let him go.