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post #21 of 41
4/24/12 at 9:43pm

 

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My understanding (loose) is that it is the brain and spinal tissue that harbors the disease and if you eat them humans may get it but eating the meat is supposedly safe.

 

I had 2 hogs butchered about a month ago and the guy removed the spinal cord and said it must be sent to a landfill not to the rendering plant by law, same with the brain but he atually sells the heads to the hispanics... brains and all.sickbyc.gif

 

 

 

Blowback from the bolt gun can contaminate muscle and other meat cuts. https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ri_ZDGHv9KAJ:hrcak.srce.hr/file/100217+captive+bolt+gun+blowback+prions&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiSZfEGmdzZyPY1cmW2NwtPcl4UJcLO-32oaVft5LIkUjAzrqDBubbUEuJiKdBzcLdv3JFBI1loBBS_3lmvbAxRHuC13XC18S407Ep5QlDv8vmNDPNcR72Vi02rXuJiXCme1261&sig=AHIEtbR4ysXAuXgy55cOIeDN7AjGkz_zUg


Edited by RHRanch - 4/24/12 at 9:50pm

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post #22 of 41
4/24/12 at 9:45pm

 

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post #23 of 41
4/24/12 at 9:49pm

If I were a cow, I'd be mad if someone fed me chicken parts, too!

 

 

And this is why I'm thankful to live where local grassfed beef is abundant and affordable.

Rachel BB
 

Well, the kittens aren't so cute anymore and the easter egger cockerels are in the freezer. Plus, I think offering them as "prizes" scared folks off! So, I'm still posting quotes, if you know it let me know. I'm very enamored of this new one, it may hang around for a while!

 

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Well, the kittens aren't so cute anymore and the easter egger cockerels are in the freezer. Plus, I think offering them as "prizes" scared folks off! So, I'm still posting quotes, if you know it let me know. I'm very enamored of this new one, it may hang around for a while!

 

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post #24 of 41
4/24/12 at 9:50pm

 

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Blowback from the bolt gun can contaminate muscle and other meat cuts. 

 

Grreat, they shot my hogs so I guess It is OK.

"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."

 

The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.

 

 

Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton agreed on little publicly, but they did agree that when the public treasury becomes a public trough and the voters recognize that, they will send to government only those who promise them a bigger piece of the pie

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"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."

 

The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.

 

 

Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton agreed on little publicly, but they did agree that when the public treasury becomes a public trough and the voters recognize that, they will send to government only those who promise them a bigger piece of the pie

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post #25 of 41
4/24/12 at 9:52pm

 

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Grreat, they shot my hogs so I guess It is OK.

 


As far as I know that should be fine.

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post #26 of 41
4/25/12 at 10:57am

The animal may have tested positive as a preliminary diagnosis, but it is my understanding that a definitive diagnoses cannot be made until autopsy, or necropsy, as it is called in animals. Has this been done?  And does anyone know if the cow in question was actually fed feed containing animal products?  Most dairy cattle feeds do not contain such. Some do but most don't. And there is some question whether bovine BSE can actually be transmitted to humans anyway.  The research studies is Britain that said it was are a little iffy.  One of the original patients thought to have contracted BSE  was found at autopsy to have actually had a brain condition that appears in chronic alcoholics, and at least two other patients were vegetarians who never ate meat of any kind, let alone beef.  And for those who think grass fed is better, chew on this.There is a disease similar to BSE that appears in wild elk and deer in this country. It is not all that common, but it is not all that rare either. Are there any cases of BSE in humans who have eaten elk or deer?  Does anyone know?

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post #27 of 41
4/26/12 at 12:16am

 

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The animal may have tested positive as a preliminary diagnosis, but it is my understanding that a definitive diagnoses cannot be made until autopsy, or necropsy, as it is called in animals. Has this been done?  And does anyone know if the cow in question was actually fed feed containing animal products?  Most dairy cattle feeds do not contain such. Some do but most don't. And there is some question whether bovine BSE can actually be transmitted to humans anyway.  The research studies is Britain that said it was are a little iffy.  One of the original patients thought to have contracted BSE  was found at autopsy to have actually had a brain condition that appears in chronic alcoholics, and at least two other patients were vegetarians who never ate meat of any kind, let alone beef.  And for those who think grass fed is better, chew on this.There is a disease similar to BSE that appears in wild elk and deer in this country. It is not all that common, but it is not all that rare either. Are there any cases of BSE in humans who have eaten elk or deer?  Does anyone know?

 

CWD is transmittable via saliva, urine, ets.  Farmed deer may have contracted CWD/BSE from consumption of feeds containing animal products long ago.  Contact between farmed deer or thier urine may have been a transmission point to wild deer.

 

http://www.vet.k-state.edu/features/pdf/cwd.pdf


Edited by RHRanch - 4/26/12 at 12:21am

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Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats.  Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!

 

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post #28 of 41
4/26/12 at 12:17am

 

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CWD is transmittable via saliva, urine, ets.  Farmed deer may have contracted CWD/BSE from consumption of feeds containing animal products long ago.  Contact between farmed deer or thier urine may have been a transmission point to wild deer.  http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/farmanimal/diseases/atoz/bse/publications/documents/tse-deer.pdf

 


Sorry double post.


Edited by RHRanch - 4/26/12 at 12:20am

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I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats.  Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!

 

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post #29 of 41
4/26/12 at 12:24am

 

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CWD is transmittable via saliva, urine, ets.  Farmed deer may have contracted CWD/BSE from consumption of feeds containing animal products long ago.  Contact between farmed deer or thier urine may have been a transmission point to wild deer.

 

http://www.vet.k-state.edu/features/pdf/cwd.pdf

 

For those who want stats on human cases/deaths from prion disease, here you go: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/bse/

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post #30 of 41
5/6/12 at 8:37pm
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The happy cows are the ones that made the others mad. They make more money and can talk and have rooster alarm clocks.

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