13 year old boy told he cant fly flag on his bike... - Page 4

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

 

 

 

 

Pride in your own nation's flag is fine. However, fighting over a piece of patterned cloth itself is folly. On reflection, it might have been more productive if a group of parents had visited the Principal to discuss the matter.

 

My own national flag:

 

Us American have gave a lot for that piece of cloth . many have gave their life for it.

So yes we will stand and fight for her.  We have more than pride, Guess you can never understand what THE STARS and STRIPES mean to us...

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Originally Posted by deerman 

 

 

Us American have gave a lot for that piece of cloth . many have gave their life for it.

 

So yes we will stand and fight for her.  We have more than pride, Guess you can never understand what THE STARS and STRIPES mean to us...

Please read my post again because I think you have misunderstood what I wrote. I was trying to draw a distinction between pride in what a national flag stands for and indignation over a single piece of cloth.

Lives have been sacrificed on behalf of all of the countries represented by the international membership of this forum, for example, and many other in addition. I wrote that pride in one's own national flag is fine. Many around the world have sacrificed a great deal for what their flags stand for, or what they imagine they stand for. A tiff over a flag on a bike that started with a one day celebration of another national flag could, perhaps, have been settled by a meeting with the Principal. Jaw jaw not war war.

I'm proud of both of my national flags too but I wouldn't start a street demonstration over the incident as it now seems to have been.

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

 

 

Please read my post again because I think you have misunderstood what I wrote. I was trying to draw a distinction between pride in what a national flag stands for and indignation over a single piece of cloth.

 

Lives have been sacrificed on behalf of all of the countries represented by the international membership of this forum, for example, and many other in addition. I wrote that pride in one's own national flag is fine. Many around the world have sacrificed a great deal for what their flags stand for, or what they imagine they stand for. A tiff over a flag on a bike that started with a one day celebration of another national flag could, perhaps, have been settled by a meeting with the Principal. Jaw jaw not war war.

 

I'm proud of both of my national flags too but I wouldn't start a street demonstration over the incident as it now seems to have been.

 

The meaning of an American flag is much more than simple pride.

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Originally Posted by chickened 

 

 

The meaning of an American flag is much more than simple pride.

Good, so you will understand how others feel about their own flags.

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

 

 

Good, so you will understand how others feel about their own flags.

I have enough respect for another country and its' people that I would never fly my flag in their country. And I would expect the same from those who come here.

Now remember when you become a naturalized citizen your country is that which you are a citizen of and out of respect for the country that allowed you citizenship you should obey their traditions and requests even if it is unspoken.

I know that some feel that they "have the right" to fly any flag in America and it may be arguably so but is it respectful? or smart? or expedient? It is hard to legislate tact or respect maybe even impossible but sometimes you do things out of respect even when you have the right to do so otherwise.

http://collegetimes.us/borders-language-culture/

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Originally Posted by cupman 

Limiting free speech is a dangerous, slippery slope.  If I wanted to fly a North Korean flag over and in place of the American flag that's my business and nobody else's.  I wouldn't do that, but that's not the point.

Would you be interested in piloting a rocket for the new Obama Space program?

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Originally Posted by chickened 

 

 

Would you be interested in piloting a rocket for the new Obama Space program?

What the sam hill is that supposed to mean?

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Originally Posted by cupman 

Limiting free speech is a dangerous, slippery slope.  If I wanted to fly a North Korean flag over and in place of the American flag that's my business and nobody else's.  I wouldn't do that, but that's not the point.

Flag ettiquette decrees that in the United States a national or any other flag can be flown, but a foreign or state flag is to  be flown beneath or beside Old Glory, not above it. If memory serves, other national flags are usually flown beside our flag and state flags are flown beneath it.

People, please read the original news article.  The principal made a mistake in judgement. He has done what he can to rectify matters.  The kid can now fly his flag on his bike if he wants. The original prohibition was a more of a safety issue than political correctness gone amok. Apparently some Hispanic kids brought the national flag of Mexico to school in celebration of Cinco de Mayo. Some of the white kids took excepton to this and there was some dissension (fights) on campus. Instead of going after the troublemakers, the principal took a shortcut and unwisely banned all national flags. The reason the principal told this kid not to fly his flag partially because he was concerned that some of the Mexican kids might retaliate for the Cinco de Mayo hoo haw. Obviously he didn't think things through.  It is my understanding that he has belatedly decided to do what he should have done in the first place.  Deal with the troublemakers.

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Originally Posted by chickened 

 

 

I have enough respect for another country and its' people that I would never fly my flag in their country. And I would expect the same from those who come here.

 

Now remember when you become a naturalized citizen your country is that which you are a citizen of and out of respect for the country that allowed you citizenship you should obey their traditions and requests even if it is unspoken.

 

I know that some feel that they "have the right" to fly any flag in America and it may be arguably so but is it respectful? or smart? or expedient? It is hard to legislate tact or respect maybe even impossible but sometimes you do things out of respect even when you have the right to do so otherwise.

http://collegetimes.us/borders-language-culture/

 

I agree completely.

Small national flags are commonly shown here outside foreign owned restaurants but we, as I mentioned previously, keep them within the premises as bunting type decorations, even though a local suggested we put them outside. At home, we fly the Thai national flag and Royal flags on appropriate occasions and wouldn't dream of flying any others. To do so would be like claiming foreign territorial rights, naturalised or not. I might make an exception for a few kids on their own special day, though.