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post #11 of 19
4/27/12 at 1:59pm

ok so I will keep this one seperate, as I said we had this in other bird like a year ago, this is a six moth old and where the heck did she get it... the bird vet we sometimes go to when we can afford it says to give flock tylan powder, I cant find it... I have the liq tylan 50 but the feed store does not have the powder.  can i put the liq in the water for the flock, if so how much?  does this mean I wont be able to sell the eggs any more, or eat the eggs anymore? 

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post #12 of 19
4/27/12 at 2:42pm

I just checked on the flock today.. the flock looks good.  other than me freaking them out becuse I am  getting really close and looking at there eye's they keep looking at me like I am crazy.  this ones eye reminds me of rodney dangerfield when he bugs his eyes out.  she seems to be doing well other wise no bubbles or ick in either eye.  it is just so strage the way it is bugging out.. I will get a picture when my husbend gets home with the camers..

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post #13 of 19
4/27/12 at 2:45pm

I meant to post this on my post I somehow got confused when I was looking stuff up sorry,   my post is the swollen eye socket one,, again sorry for the mix up.

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post #14 of 19
4/27/12 at 3:33pm

 

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There are other things that can cause swollen eyes, chickens can get eye infections/pecks/injuries as well. However, adding gaspy breathing, bubbles in the eyes, sneezing, etc - that usually points to a respiratory infection. They CAN recover, however they will always be carriers and the disease will pop up again if the birds are stressed in some way (weather, new chickens, handling, new dog, whatever). Wild birds can have it, chickens and eggs you bring home can have it, you can even track it around on your shoes. =(

 

You CAN treat for this, just know that you can't sell or rehome any birds and any new birds you bring in will get it too. So if you don't cull and decide to treat, you have to have a closed flock. 

 

 

Well said. There are different strains of respiratory diseases, mild to wild. No matter what strain it is, the results are always the same.

There's no doubt this was a respiratory disease. It also appeared to be a little facial swelling in the video, notice how she was closing her eye towards the end, some paleness...compare that with the other birds. The bubbly eyes are a dead giveaway that it's a respiratory disease. If there wernt a foul odor, I would suspect MG, maybe IB. Alot of these diseases can be passed through eggs to chicks.

I empathasize with you WildBillHicks. You did the right thing. I wouldve done the same in a heartbeat.


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post #15 of 19
4/27/12 at 3:54pm

 

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There are other things that can cause swollen eyes, chickens can get eye infections/pecks/injuries as well. However, adding gaspy breathing, bubbles in the eyes, sneezing, etc - that usually points to a respiratory infection. They CAN recover, however they will always be carriers and the disease will pop up again if the birds are stressed in some way (weather, new chickens, handling, new dog, whatever). Wild birds can have it, chickens and eggs you bring home can have it, you can even track it around on your shoes. =(

 

You CAN treat for this, just know that you can't sell or rehome any birds and any new birds you bring in will get it too. So if you don't cull and decide to treat, you have to have a closed flock. 

 

Question......  When I first bought my ready to lay pullets I didn't quarantine the 3 different farms worth of chickens that I picked up all on the same day......my mistake.   There was an outbreak and I treated them and everyone seemed good.   They had the open mouth breathing.....and sneezing/cough their eyes were clear.     Then a day ago I noticed one that was open mouth breathing again and this has been about 4 weeks after the first outbreak.   I have not added any new chickens so I wasn't sure why it was triggered again.     We are okay eating the eggs from these hens as long as we are not medicating them correct???? 

 

 

I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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post #16 of 19
4/27/12 at 4:01pm

 

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Yes, you can eat the eggs as long as you are not medicating them. (or if you medicated with something like denagard). 

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post #17 of 19
4/27/12 at 4:19pm

Treating birds with antibiotics will help treat symptoms (but not cure) such as duramycin, tylan, baytril. However as time goes by, these diseases build resistance to them and the antibiotics become ineffective. Keep in mind that Denagard only treats mycoplasma diseases. It has no effect on coryza, IB etc...only bloodwork or a necrosy can determine what disease it is. If it's a mycoplasma disease, denagard requires a one time treatment dose and a monthly preventative dose. So you see, the disease never actually goes away nor is cured. The difference with denagard is that there is no egg withdrawal, there is a 2 day slaughter withdrawal. Duramycin has a 21 day withdrawal, tylan injectable no withdrawal, there's a 1 day withdrawal with the tylan soluable. Baytril has a 5 day withdrawal.


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post #18 of 19
4/28/12 at 11:54am

 

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Treating birds with antibiotics will help treat symptoms (but not cure) such as duramycin, tylan, baytril. However as time goes by, these diseases build resistance to them and the antibiotics become ineffective. Keep in mind that Denagard only treats mycoplasma diseases. It has no effect on coryza, IB etc...only bloodwork or a necrosy can determine what disease it is. If it's a mycoplasma disease, denagard requires a one time treatment dose and a monthly preventative dose. So you see, the disease never actually goes away nor is cured. The difference with denagard is that there is no egg withdrawal, there is a 2 day slaughter withdrawal. Duramycin has a 21 day withdrawal, tylan injectable no withdrawal, there's a 1 day withdrawal with the tylan soluable. Baytril has a 5 day withdrawal.

 

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thanks for this info.....I am going to cut and paste it and keep if for my files.  The first time I used a product from my vets that had a 5 day withdrawal.   Like I mentioned....no one had eye bubbles....they were doing an open mouth breathing.....and a cough/sneeze.   This is when I first bought all the hens from 3 places ......then it all cleared up everyone looked good.....but has come back as of now in 1 chicken.

I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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post #19 of 19
4/28/12 at 11:56am

 

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Originally Posted by featherz View Post

 

 

Yes, you can eat the eggs as long as you are not medicating them. (or if you medicated with something like denagard). 

 

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thanks......I was sure I was okay......but second guessed myself and thought I better ask......

I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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I own a small colourful flock of EE's, Speckled Sussex, Ameraucanas, Black Star, Columbian X, Barred Rock, Welsummer, Black Copper Maran, Birchen Maran, Wheaten Marans, Buff Orpington, Buff Bantam Brahmas, Black Leghorn, Blue Laced Red Wynadotte,    I also raise Falabella Miniature horses and Shetland Sheepdogs.

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