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I wish there was a  member on BYC who is a legal expert (attorney). It would be interesting on getting their opinion.

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post #92 of 171
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Originally Posted by cafarmgirl View Post

Ok, wait.  Need some clarification.  You said the people you bought the place from told you to get rid of your chickens.  So are they now your neighbors and raising chickens for Tyson?  But you own this property you live on?   And they are saying that YOU can't have chickens on your own property because of what they are doing on their property? 

This might be a case of TOO BAD for them if you want to keep your own chickens.  Was all of this disclosed and discussed before you bought the place?  I just don't see how they can now try to tell you that you can't keep your chickens on 40 acres.

If they are indeed raising chickens on contract for Tyson then I'm sure they have stringent bio security rules they have to follow as far as their chicken houses.  I do not believe for a minute that those rules include telling neighboring landowners what they can and cannot do on their own property.

I have a Sanderson Farms house across the road from me. When I moved in I had no chickens but sure had a mouse problem caused by being close to a chicken house. The owner told me to get cats. Well I had those. Then someone told me not to feed the cats . Well my cats just kill the rats & don't care to eat them. My point being if you have to put up with a mouse & rat problem also bringing snakes then they have no right to complain of your chickens.
post #93 of 171
Wouldn't it just be awful if you get rid of all your birds and somebody next to you gets chickens... I gather mom and pop made a huge mistake by going into real estate by selling off acres, oh well, I bet they are making more money doing that than raising a few chickens for Tyson. Nope. Still don't believe it, something else is going on, what are they not telling you, I smell a rat.
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Tyson is a very powerful company that sadly can do a lot of things that don't seem fair at all. Watch the documentary Food, Inc. (it's on Netflix) if you want to see some of the sad truths about this terrible company. Regardless of your personal opinions about the documentary, it really does shed some light on the manipulative and terrible behaviors this company has. I would be careful dealing with a Tyson owned farm honestly because they're known to hold people (even small farms) up in litigation for years and run them dry of money. I know that sounds a little extreme, just be careful! If they say it, they probably mean business.

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Tyson is a very powerful company that sadly can do a lot of things that don't seem fair at all. Watch the documentary Food, Inc. (it's on Netflix) if you want to see some of the sad truths about this terrible company. Regardless of your personal opinions about the documentary, it really does shed some light on the manipulative and terrible behaviors this company has. I would be careful dealing with a Tyson owned farm honestly because they're known to hold people (even small farms) up in litigation for years and run them dry of money. I know that sounds a little extreme, just be careful! If they say it, they probably mean business.

From my understanding of the OP's posts the property next door is NOT owned by Tyson.  The people have a contract to raise chickens for Tyson but they own the land and are apparently afraid of loosing said contract.  That is what the OP is worried about.

 

So all of this really has nohting at all to do with the OP telling Tyson anything or dealing with Tyson in any way at all.  That is the responsibility of the neighbor, they have a contract, not the OP. 

 

Yes Tyson may be a big company and I'm sure they have specific rules and regulations by the ton about what goes on in their own facilities and their growers facilities  but I have yet to see where they are able to control not only their own facilities but what goes on on private property owned by others.

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wife to long suffering husband who has built more miles of fence, barns, coops and enclosures then one man should have to, two teenage boys, current flock of 13 assorted hens and 1 big red roo, 2 goats, 2 dogs, 4 cats, 2 bunnies and 1 cockatiel. 

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post #96 of 171

I am pretty sure the Point is what i had posted Before, Before you become a Farmer for Tyson you have to have there chickens a certain distance from other chickens/fowl, So if you want to become a Farmer for them your land has to meet there Req, If you have people across the street with Fowl they will not approve you. When Tyson approved them they had the land across the street and no other fowl in there req distance. The older couple were sick and prob goin to retire or weren't thinking clearly at the time and sold the land across the street and Prob forgot this detail since it Prob had never come up in the past. One day they see chickens and it sparks there memory or someone had said something to them. Ill say it again that the Op needs to sit down and talk with them ( not Tyson ) and figure out whats going on I am pretty sure the couple could pull out a tyson contract and show them the rules, Will the OP get in trouble I very highly doubt it but the old couple can lose there contract and in that contract they may have to pay fines and fees along with losing there lively hood and all of there investments.

 

With out speaking to the Old couple there is no way of knowing whats going on but I don't think that keeping a few chickens is worth someone else losing everything they own. It's about people being nice to each other and helping one another out and it's give and take, the couple prob would help the lady relocate the chickens to another part of her land. These are chickens not children If I was going to lose everything I would hope that that my neighbor would get rid of his chickens and help me out and i am sure most good people in my area would.

 

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Ok the way I see it and it may have been stated in other posts is this,

1. Tyson most likely has a rule that there farmers aren't allowed to raises there Chickens with in a certain distance from other chickens.

2.They prob sold the property and didn't think about this.

3.Tyson may not renew contract or shut them down since they broke contract and the owners will lose a lot of money.

4. They most likely can't make you get rid of your chickens unless there is some local law or its in your contract for your house that you can't keep chickens.

5.They may have over looked this and if they are nice people you have to think if you keeping a few chickens is worth them losing there business and who knows what else maybe everything they have.

6.It's not fair to think that they could just move there barn and it isn't fair to make you go a .5 miles to see your chickens but I do think if it was me and they were nice people and would lose everything if I kept my chickens I think I would get rid of them.

7. I would sit down with them and see if you guys can work something out.

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2 Barred Rocks Hens, 2 Partridge Rocks Hens.
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8 Easter Egg Hens, 5 Ameraucanas .
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2 Ameraucana Rooster, 2 Rhode Island Red Hens
2 Barred Rocks Hens, 2 Partridge Rocks Hens.
2 Black Australorp.2 Black Sex-Links Hens.
8 Easter Egg Hens, 5 Ameraucanas .
1 Blue Cochin,2 SL Wyandottes,2 GL Wyandotte.
1 White Leghorn, 1 Speckled Sussex
2 Guinea Hens Royal Purples.
3 Peacocks India Blue,Black Shoulder,Silver Pied 1 Jade Spalding & BS Peahen
2 Royal Palm Turkeys
2 Rottweilers,1 Male...

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post #97 of 171
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Originally Posted by Achickenwrangler#1 View Post

Wouldn't it just be awful if you get rid of all your birds and somebody next to you gets chickens... I gather mom and pop made a huge mistake by going into real estate by selling off acres, oh well, I bet they are making more money doing that than raising a few chickens for Tyson. Nope. Still don't believe it, something else is going on, what are they not telling you, I smell a rat.

 

I would guess you may be right... the Tyson farmers may have forgotten the details of their own contract prior to the sale of the 40 acres.  In the documentary Food, Inc. it didn't sound like Tyson chicken farmers make a lot of money - it sounded like expenses could be almost as high as the income, but once they've taken on the loans to build the Tyson regulated barns, they are stuck having to continue farming for Tyson or risk losing everything.

 

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Originally Posted by mgarrett View Post

Tyson is a very powerful company that sadly can do a lot of things that don't seem fair at all. Watch the documentary Food, Inc. (it's on Netflix) if you want to see some of the sad truths about this terrible company. Regardless of your personal opinions about the documentary, it really does shed some light on the manipulative and terrible behaviors this company has. I would be careful dealing with a Tyson owned farm honestly because they're known to hold people (even small farms) up in litigation for years and run them dry of money. I know that sounds a little extreme, just be careful! If they say it, they probably mean business.

 

That documentary, Food, Inc. and how Tyson treats the chickens and their own chicken farmers is THE primary reason we decided to get backyard chickens in the first place.  We don't eat as much chicken any more.  We decided it would be nice to eat the eggs of a well-cared for backyard flock.  Seeing those chickens in the barn, seeing how tightly crowded they are and watching how high the filth is that they are walking in, was very disturbing.  How scared those Tyson chicken farmers were to show what really happens in a Tyson barn was equally disturbing.  After seeing that film, I could not get those images out of my head.  I don't know, but I would guess it is the Tyson chicken farmer who is more at risk for losing everything than their surrounding neighbors (unless there was a clause written into the sale agreement that the buyers didn't realize was there).  Tyson may just pull the contract from the Tyson farmer.

 

The other part of that film that was very disturbing was the egg farms - how they send all the male chicks down that processing line to be shredded.  Simply terrible!

 

I feel so bad for both parties in this situation.

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Hatched April 12, 2012 - Drama, a Light Brahma; Caunnie, an Easter Egger; and Rhodie, a Rhode Island Red

Hatched October 14, 2012 - Latte, a mixed pullet - a.k.a. a "Fudgelet"

Hatched December 9, 2012 - Snow and Blackie, Olive Egger pullets and Penny, a Black Copper Marans

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post #98 of 171
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Originally Posted by Lainey60 View Post
 
My question is this, does anyone know if Tyson can close these people down because I have my baby's so close to these barns?

 

I just went back and read the initial post.  The answer is "yes".  Tyson can, and probably will, unless your chickens are moved the regulated distance away from the Tyson barns.  sad.png

Hatched April 12, 2012 - Drama, a Light Brahma; Caunnie, an Easter Egger; and Rhodie, a Rhode Island Red

Hatched October 14, 2012 - Latte, a mixed pullet - a.k.a. a "Fudgelet"

Hatched December 9, 2012 - Snow and Blackie, Olive Egger pullets and Penny, a Black Copper Marans

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Hatched April 12, 2012 - Drama, a Light Brahma; Caunnie, an Easter Egger; and Rhodie, a Rhode Island Red

Hatched October 14, 2012 - Latte, a mixed pullet - a.k.a. a "Fudgelet"

Hatched December 9, 2012 - Snow and Blackie, Olive Egger pullets and Penny, a Black Copper Marans

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Originally Posted by Lainey60 View Post
 
My question is this, does anyone know if Tyson can close these people down because I have my baby's so close to these barns?

 

I just went back and read the initial post.  The answer is "yes".  Tyson can, and probably will, unless your chickens are moved the regulated distance away from the Tyson barns.  sad.png

 

I agree, if Tyson finds out. wink.png

 

I believe Joe G. cut to the heart of the dilemma.

 

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If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit,

for whatever happens to the beasts also happens to the man.

All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons of the Earth.

 

       ― Chief Seattle

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If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit,

for whatever happens to the beasts also happens to the man.

All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons of the Earth.

 

       ― Chief Seattle

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post #100 of 171

I have just read through 10 pages of the same stuff. OP sorry but heres the truth. If you own your property then quit cowering. Make a decision right now what you are going to do. Get rid of them or keep them and stand up for you rights! Quit with all the fluff! We each have a **** right to keep fricken chicken for food and enjoyment. More that we let Local Gov, and Big Businesses push us around the more rights we lose. I for one refuse to allow people to push me around. If I was you and they started pushing me, I would push back. I would make them wish they would never had met me. Money or no money! I will leave the rest up for the imagination. Considering the have thousand of LIVE birds that could possibly get sick or die at any time for any reason!
 

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