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I don't think there's anything in GMO foods to harm anyone. And no one has shown any evidence that it does any harm.

I don't know whether it does any harm, but I would like to say 'no' to it as a consumer, just in case.

Arguing for labeling is *not* an argument against a product, it's just calling for what should be a basic human right (the freedom to choose what gets put in one's mouth, and in one's children's mouths).

People pushing GMOs seem invariably to have some connection with industry. Same goes for official studies. Whatever the case, it's best to read widely and think for ourselves.

cheers

Erica

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Originally Posted by hemet dennis 

I don't think there's anything in GMO foods to harm anyone. And no one has shown any evidence that it does any harm.

Please Read These:

#1 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25950

     http://responsibletechnology.org/docs/140.pdf very good PDF

#2http://www.naturalnews.com/031105_genetically_modified_GMO.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/033784_GMO_animal_feed.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/031436_GMOs_food_labeling.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/035174_GMOs_food_packaging_biotech_industry.html

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers

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Originally Posted by ButchGood 

Nambroth said, "For those that choose GM/pesticides/herbicides, that is their choice. I have no reason to mock them for it." Yes it is their choice, But its not right to do it if it harms others.

Absolutely. Sorry if I mis-worded that... What I was trying to say is that I wouldn't mock people that choose GM, but I'd ask the same respect in return. I have a lot of strong feelings about food, but I acknowledge that they are personal choices, and would never get in anyone's face if they choose differently than I do. Yet I see people on both sides of the argument do just that, regularly (everywhere, not just here on BYC), which only ends up with hard feelings instead of beneficial debate and learning. It's especially frustrated to be mocked for having a certain food choice-- as if it's a fad or some sort of social symbol! This is not directed at you, ButchGood, but all of those that would chastise individuals that choose to live in a different way.

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Originally Posted by ButchGood 

Please Read These:

#1 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25950

     http://responsibletechnology.org/docs/140.pdf very good PDF

 

 

 

 

#2http://www.naturalnews.com/031105_genetically_modified_GMO.html

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/033784_GMO_animal_feed.html

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/031436_GMOs_food_labeling.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/035174_GMOs_food_packaging_biotech_industry.html

http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers

Still see no EVIDENCE and talk about people with an agenda. You should research how much money the people that run these anti GMO programs make every year. They pray on the people that see things under their bed everyday.

If combining plant and animal genes is bad then I guess we shouldn't eat plants and meat together.

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Originally Posted by hemet dennis 

Still see no EVIDENCE and talk about people with an agenda. You should research how much money the people that run these anti GMO programs make every year. They pray on the people that see things under their bed everyday.

If combining plant and animal genes is bad then I guess we shouldn't eat plants and meat together.

That's absolutely incorrect. Most anti-GMO organisations are grassroots organisations with no financial base at all, or small-donation-only. By contrast pro-GMO organizations are mega-rich and can afford to pay internet-savvy people in third world countries to go online belittling other arguments.

And of course there are many farmers of the stuff who have financial reason to promote it.

Lastly, something created in a laboratory could never be compared to eating the two real foods together. Some scientists are combining plant and human genes. Does that mean we should eat people?

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Originally Posted by hemet dennis 

Still see no EVIDENCE and talk about people with an agenda. You should research how much money the people that run these anti GMO programs make every year.

And where is your evidence for that claim?

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Originally Posted by Erica 

And where is your evidence for that claim?

Like I said you should research them.

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Originally Posted by hemet dennis 

If combining plant and animal genes is bad then I guess we shouldn't eat plants and meat together.

This statement is extraordinarily misleading.The genes spliced into most GM crops are not from food animals but from bacteria that we would normally not be exposed to. Most GM crops have glyphosate (RoundUp) resistance through protection from a bacterial gene that is spliced into the genome of a given crop and thus are treated with tons and tons of glyphosate (since weeds are becoming resistant to glyphosate due to overuse, they have to use more glyphosate). Some GM crops also produce their own pesticides called 'Bt toxin', Bt is short for Bacillus thuringiensis which is a bacteria that lives in the guts of some caterpillars and moths and on some plants. This bacteria produces 'crystal proteins' that have insecticidal effects. When they splice this gene in the plants genome it produces a lot of Bt toxin and that plant has a LOT of the Bt genetic material in it. The scary part is, a study in Quebec found the Bt toxin circulating in the blood of pregnant women, and in the fetuses, both in fairly high concentrations and with a high rate of incidence (I believe 80% of pregnant women and their fetuses). There is also a potential for this gene to transfer into the bacteria within your own gut and then your digestive system would become a Bt toxin factory! Sounds fun, no?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670 - link to the abstract of the study mentioned above.

GM foods are dangerous in more ways than one. Most recent studies are showing them to be unsustainable, in fact "RoundUp Ready" crops are already almost useless since so many weeds are now resistant to the pesticide due to gross overuse. Now it appears they are going to shift to 2,4-D ready crops. I will take a pass on that. You can choose for yourself, but do the research first, understand the issue beyond the talking points you hear on the "news".

cheers