My heart breaks - Page 5  

THIS! and I would add compassion.

Instances like these are when I find people who try to pass legislation to make it illegal to film a police officer while on duty messed up in the head.

I think one reason that there are more beatings and shooting now days is because we as a society have tied the hands of law enforcement to the degree that they know if they shoot someone dead that it is usually over and there is rarely an instance when they will be prosecuted for murder due to the old adage that dead men tell no lies.  Cops know people have cameras and are filming. If it were me I would not stop hitting the man until he gave up... period.  Cops are trained to subdue with force as needed and that is a very fine line. 

 

If the guy that died was a guy that had an earlier conviction of beating his wife and kids  would you all think differently? How many of you would say he deserved it?  A unique definition of what constitutes tolerance I think.

You know, perception is reality.  I watched the entire 33 min video.  There are two very interesting parts. First the 10 -15 minutes before the violence (Things I noticed: He told the cops his name, they didn't seem to buy it or just wanted to hassle him over it - not sure.  Kelly let them search his backpack.  Kelly followed directions, but had to be told repeatedly, its unclear if he always understood what he was supposed to do, but an effort to comply happened throughout.  Interestingly the verbal threat from the cop came somewhat out of the blue and up to that point Kelly had complied with all orders despite confusion/inability to remain at attention or on task.  (Duh, he had mental problems)

 

The second thing that is interesting happens while the cops sit on him.  They sit on him and speculate about Kelly resisting once they let him up.  A second before they get off him and realize he's not breathing, one of the cops says "He's going to fight."  So the cops had a belief he was going to fight, even as they sat on a now unbreathing (dead) Kelly.  They get up and seem a bit surprised that hes not breathing.  Then the excuses start :"he must have been on something" and "I ran out of options" You don't have to be a psychologist to recognize their attempt to justify and distance themselves from the results of their actions.   So perception is key here: They perceived him as "fighting" even when he was dead/unconscious. 

I am absolutely astounded that even one person would defend those cops behavior.  

Debi, there are always those who will take the low road.  Whether for 'real' or just to agitate - who knows?

Oh My God! I am just speechless...saw some pictures of him in the hospital....pure police brutality! 

 

Our cops would not go too far than giving a guy (being resistent to the cops) a black eye or try to handcuff them/hogtie and put them in the car.

 

Unless the poor guy has drugs in his system, he is pretty strong to fight big guys........

 

The Daddy name, really jerks my heart and all the repeats, I can't breathe..........

Just to clarify my position here I do think the cops **** up here bigtime, but how many times have they helped people? by taking some dirtbag out that most likely needed it? The guys that did this are not policemen they are thugs.  Personal responsibility seems in order here not broadbrushing good cops.

The video didnt show enough evidence either way.. IMO
It only showed a few seconds of a man resisting arrest... not sure what all happend..

I do know that its a shame that so many mentally ill people are homeless... its shouldnt be happening here in our country.

I was married to a police officer for 6 years.  They used to have " choir practice " at our house eg. sit around all night get drunk and tell stories.   Some of the stuff they got away with would have put anyone else in the penitentiary.  This happened over 30 years ago in a rural town outside Chicago.  It's gotten a lot worse since then.   There is no excuse for what they did but believe me, some have done worse. They just haven't got caught yet.