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Hi, I need help figuring out what is wrong with my 6 week old Dark Brahma pullet, Duckie. A few days ago I found her with her wing twisted underneath her and extremely weak. I brought her inside to recover and placed a companion with her. Long story short, Duckie seemed to be interested in eating and drinking, but even now her appetite is starting to decline. She is not gaining weight, but her crop usually has something in it. Her poop is varied, she has solids and runny yellow watery poop. She is weak and stands with ruffled feathers, huddled, eyes closed for the most part. She is always wanting to burrow underneath her companion. The worst is her loud, sad cheeps. Duckie is obviously in discomfort and crying out to her mommy (me). 

More info: Got her and 17 other chicks from a co-op at one day of age and hand raised them in brooder. One chick was introduced from my own flock within the first week that was rejected by it's mother, no side effects in any of the birds. She had been staying with all 18 of the other chicks outdoors since they were 4 weeks old. Living in confined pen made of wood and chicken wire on the grass. Have not been exposed to my older birds. She had webbed feet but I separated the toes when she was 3 weeks old, no infection or side effects. I just had my own baby one week ago and so between being 9 months preggo and being in postpartum recovery I haven't been very thorough with cleaning their water (hangs head in shame).

Is she sick? Parasite? Is there something I can give her to perk her back up? Should she go to vet? Please help ASAP, Duckie is a special bird to me and I don't want to lose her!

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Hello and welcome to BYC.  I am sorry to hear about your poor Duckie.  I am by no means an expert on chicken diseases, but had wanted to respond to your post to see how both you and your little pullet are doing.  

 

You had mentioned that you had found her with her wing twisted under her?  Is her condition related to an injury to her wing?  Are there any other symptoms such as coughing, sneezing, bubbly eyes, labored breathing...  anything respiratory related?  Does her crop empty after she eats or does it appear to be impacted?  Any odd smells coming from her?  Any external signs of parasites...  mites, lice etc?  Sorry for all the random questions.  Just trying to see if there are any other clues to her condition so hopefully someone with more experience with chicken diseases can recognize what's wrong with her.

 

I'm sorry I couldn't provide more help.  Please keep us updated on her condition.  I'll keep my fingers crossed that she improves soon.

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Thanks, abbey808, I appreciate that you took some time to respond. I would've answered sooner but our internet went down last night. Sweet little Duckie just passed away this morning, but it was quiet and peaceful. I'd still like to know what caused this, in case it happens again to another bird.

In answer to your questions:

Is her condition related to an injury to her wing?  
At first I thought so, but I think her lack of thriving actually contributed to her odd position--I think she may have fallen over and/or got trampled by the other birds by accident and was too weak to get back up.

Are there any other symptoms such as coughing, sneezing, bubbly eyes, labored breathing...  anything respiratory related?  
No respiratory issues.

Does her crop empty after she eats or does it appear to be impacted?  
No impacted crop. I gave her some fluids via syringe and it seemed to pass right through her. First I gave her a watered down mix of a bit of B-complex (stuff I had been taking during my pregnancy) and a protein smoothie juice I got at Publix, in hopes to boost her energy. Then I gave her a bit of poultry electrolytes.

Any odd smells coming from her?  Any external signs of parasites...  mites, lice etc?
No external parasites could be found. Her poo had a strong stink, though.

I'll post pictures soon, maybe that will help.

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These last three pics are of Duckie just a couple hours before she passed. Shelley stayed by her side until nearly the very end. Both birds are from the same flock, same age, got them at the co-op.


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http://ultimatefowl.atwiki.com/page/Coccidiosis  That is a link to the symptoms of Coccidiosis.  What you describe sounds like cocci to me.  I would start all of your pullets on Corid as soon as possible.  Pictures would probably help somebody else give a positive diagnosis.  I think there's a definite stance that chickens have when they're affected with cocci.  I don't have enough experience to recognize it, but hopefully somebody else will come along and tell you what they think.

Good luck!

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 "I don't wanna go through the motions.  I don't wanna go one more day.  Without Your all consuming passion inside of me.

I don't want to spend my whole life asking, 'What if I had given everything'? Instead of going through the motions." 

 

 

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Thanks, Maev. She matched all but 4 of the symptoms. Initially I ruled out the cocci because I thought there had to be blood in the stool. I'll look into the Corid.

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I found this kinda cool. I have a pullet named Ducky... and she has Cocci.  Well, it's not cool, but the fact that our chickens have the same ailment and name is kinda neat :P

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Oh no!  I am sorry to hear of poor Duckie's passing.  I am glad that Shelley stayed by her side to comfort her in the end.  The bond that some chickens have with each other is so heartwarming.

 

Just by looking at the pictures, I would agree with Maev that it could be Coccidiosis.  They are supposed to have a particular hunched stance and ruffled, droopy look to them when affected.  Duckie is about the right age for it too.  Are your chicks on medicated feed by any chance?  Hopefully. the amprolium will help with further outbreaks.

 

Again, I am so sorry for your loss.  Sending prayers and hugs your way...  hugs.gif

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hugs.gifSorry of her passing. It is hard to deal with a chicken death. I just had 2 deaths (in my chicks) recently.hugs.gif

What kind of chick was she?

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Thank you all, for the condolences. It's hard with any pet, but doubly so when it's the death of a baby! This is the fourth baby I've lost, but the first loss from the flock of chicks that I purchased (the other three hatched at home). I'm beginning to suspect that at least two of them also died from cocci. The last chick that died, Phyllis, was really tragic because I'd nearly lost her once, been treating her for splayed leg, she regained strength and vigor and seemed to be fine. I left around 10 or 11 am from my house to birth my son, and my dad found her dead that very evening hit.gif

I too, am glad that Shelley was with Duckie. She seems to have the comforter personality, so that's why I picked her. I always make sure that any ill or injured bird has a companion (unless the situation is too risky for either bird to share company), because they are more likely to die when completely isolated. What's amazing is that when I let Shelley come out of the carrier, she immediately flew onto my shoulder, hopped on top of the carrier, and nestled right next to Duckie (those pics are not staged!). 


No, they are not on medicated feed right now. I've been calling all the feed stores I can find for Corid, the closest store that sells it is about a 40 minute drive away. For now, I've disinfected all the feed and water dishes with diluted bleach, kept the water fresh, and mixed in powdered milk with their crumbles to flush out any nasties (it worked, found some red stuff in their poo the next day). There's another feed store that is closer that carries Sulmet, but I've heard mixed reviews on that stuff. So I'm going to try to get the Corid tomorrow, goodness knows I can't put this off any longer! 


Edited by crawfordrose - 5/16/12 at 2:54am
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