Originally Posted by lazy gardener
Originally Posted by Arielle
LG are you by any chance close to Johnnys?? THAT could be very dangerous. lol
Yes. But, even more importantly, I am near Fedco Seeds. (within 1 hour drive of both places) IMO, Johnny's has a fantastic catalog that is just chock block full of excellent reference material. But, I've seen them go too far in the direction of hybrids in the last few years. And their prices are very high. Of course you get what you pay for, and their seeds are great. I just prefer to have more OP choices.
Now, Fedco Seeds: They have fantastic prices. Their catalog is a bit hard to take sometimes with their cutesy variety descriptions. I over look that because they have EXCELLENT variety choices, wonderful seed packet size choices, and their prices are much more competitive. They also have an excellent selection of trees, bulbs and tubers for the north. However, if you plan to buy trees from them, you'd better plan to order the minute their catalog hit's your mail box. An other reason for purchasing from Fedco: They stand firm in their policies to not support GMO technology/purchase GMO exposed seeds, and have joined in litigation against Monsanto.
I completely forgot about fedco. a long time Maine homesteader who relocated back here to the family home turf is a wonder to talk to. I never miss a chance to pass ideas by him or ask about the production of plants. He has a lifetime of knowledge to share for the asking. He put me onto Johnnys and Fedco.
I was a little slow to pick up on the high number of hybrids atJohnnys. ANd at first I was taken aback... but with some further thinking, I see value in the old heirlooms AND the hybrids. Much to be said for both. NOT talking about GMOs here. But varieties bred to resist diseases and pests when production is a must and not an option. Fruit and veg heading off to9 market need durable characteristics that often heirlooms that only needed to make from garden to table, or even shorter, garden to mouth. lol This year I have added hybrids to my long list of heirlooms.
Originally Posted by ChickenCanoe
I couldn't agree more. Some people just don't internalize things. They have eyesight but no vision and don't commit things to memory. I've been a gardener/farmer all my life. I think that has a lot to do with it. People that have never grown things or kept animals have an almost insurmountable learning curve to overcome.
Some people hear words or witness things and don't think about it for a second after the experience.
I'm amazed at the simple or commonplace things adults DON'T know.
On the point of what did I do today, I'm only half way through it but I'm starting tomato seeds, planting some peas, building soil circles around fruit trees where I'm planting strawberries, planting some more asparagus, lettuce, spinach and going into a beehive and perhaps splitting it. I'm sure it is close to swarming.
CC, I totally agree with you. My mother started gardening flowers. Then progressed to vegie gardens, and I learned from her a bit here and there. No animals beyond dogs and cats and pet rabbitsl Had to go off to college to see livestock.lol Felt like a dunce compared to the other students that grew up on farms. I was lightyears behind.
We live in a rush rush modern world and do not have time to sit and ponder and think and think and think......... there is great value in farming life as you cannot rush the process, and it needs tending on a daily basis..... and their is time to think when doing the mundane like cleaning a horse stall or weeding a garden. ANd time to talk.....without a TV, radio or other electronics to distract a person.
I often ponder the negative effects of yanking the third world countries into the modern era......the loss of farming, respect of the land, and loss of ones"neighbors."
Originally Posted by lazy gardener
I agree with you GN. and CC. The average person who goes to work, comes home, vegges in front of the tube, only to get up and do it all over again misses so much of the rhythms of life, and the pleasure that those rhythms and patterns create. How many folks get excited to see snow fleas? How many folks even know what a snow flea is, or have taken the time to inspect the little black specks on late winter snow to see that they are actually tiny little insects that hop around? How many folks can stop in the lawn, and pick a bouquet of 4 leaf clovers, without hardly having to look for them? How many folks can see the flower within a flower, and appreciate the infinite beauty of that perfect little blossom? And how many folks get infinite smiles every day and every hour over those little tidbits of God's creation? Call me a simpleton! I'll sit here, and marvel at the joys and thrills that unfold outside my back door, and be thankful for every moment I have to spend out there. And, enjoying those pleasures, I believe gives me a greater awareness of the rest of the stuff that makes up my world. Enjoyment of the intricacies of human nature, when I do have to do the "go to work" thing!
You are not a simpleton, but found the real value of living. ANd you are teaching that to your children.
I'm working with my kids this summer to start a mock business using a farm stand as the model. Oldest was quick to claim the book keeper job and rushed off to make 4 spread sheets on excel. Didn't even know he knew how to use that program. Guess school has taught him something. THat was yesterday. Today he comes home to tell me about a computer program that helps identify likely jobs he would be interested in.......accounting!!!! Ive been trying to tell him that for weeks..... engineering isn't the only math oriented career. rofl THough with the interest rates he charges me on loans, he should be a loan shark. lol
Edited by Arielle - 4/8/16 at 5:22pm