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post #11 of 19
I don't think this is some sort of salmonella super bug. I think that outbreaks are more common because as you said, more people are exposed while uninformed during Easter time. Plus, people are getting their chick orders, and some of those new to livestock animals are not as well versed in their poop as you are! wink.png. I also think that the hatchery had a sanitation issue that was probably quickly taken care of. When you hatch who knows how many chicks in one day, there are bound t be bacteria in high numbers, no matter how sanitary they are. I also think that the media jumps every time they see the word salmonella, and backyard chickens are also more prevalent in the media these days, so it kind of goes hand in hand.

But really, I'm just speculating. So who knows?
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Off the grid since 1998. Wife to a wonderful DH of 10 years, Mommy to a fantastic 7 year old little boy and 22 chickens. Partridge Rocks, Dominiques, Rose Comb Brown Leghorns, Easter Eggers, 1 Welsummer, 1 Barnevelder, 2 Red Stars, 1Black Copper Marans, and a few mixed breeds.
Another blog I follow- Natural chicken keeping blog: http://naturalchickenkeeping.blogspot.com/?m=0
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post #12 of 19

From what I read it was not a super bug, but people were actually putting chicks IN the Easter baskets. Seems to me that putting something that steps in poop with candy would be a bad idea, but obviously other folks did not figure this out. idunno.gif

 

Like others have said, you should always be washing your hands after you handle your pets and their stuff anyway so I don't think it is something to become overly alarmed over.

post #13 of 19

Wash your hands!!! 

 

If you're pregnant, wear gloves, and wash your hands.

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Married to the old dude, 0 human kids, 2 horses, 10 cockatiels, 2 parakeets, 1 sun conure, 1 amazon parrot,  1 eccentric peacock, 1 gsd, 1 pet terrapin, 1 Blue Copper Maran rooster, and 14 world famous Jersey Giants!

 

 

Stan the Man will be missed.

 

 

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post #14 of 19

This is actually an issue that I personally have with a lot of people who own pets.  Any kind of pet.

Animals lack the capacity to be sanitary in any way.  So it's up to you to have the sanitary practices (but also don't go overboard).

 

Your mouth is the main gateway bugs use to get to you.  Animals, their body parts, their feces, and their mouths should NOT EVER go near your mouth. Yes this includes dogs.  Think about it, what is the one thing that dogs LOVE to do when they come across chicken poop?  Yes, the answer is 'eat it'.  Now let your dog kiss you, and tada like magic you get sick.

 

You don't have to lug sanatizer around like a lifeline, or daintily walk a huge circle around chicken-poop, or even put rubber gloves on up to your elbows, just wash your hands when you're done, and don't put them in your mouth before-hand. 

 

Also, no kissing baby animals, no matter how cute they are.  All it takes is a chick getting it's head stepped on by another chick with poop encrusted feet (very common event).  Put your mouth on that cute chickie head, and again... tada... sick.

 

I think the moral is that humans just need to keep their mouths to themselves, and stop viewing 'outbreaks' and 'infections' as lurking around every corner.  Just be reasonable in what you put your mouth against, and wash your hands.  That's it, no magic formula, no bleach, no sanitizer addiction, no plague-masks, no lasers, no deathstars or stasis chambers, or any of that fancy stuff.

"It's easy. You draw a red line on the ground, right? Then you wait for a chicken to come along. When he arrives, he puts his beak right on the line and he's hypnotized!"
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"It's easy. You draw a red line on the ground, right? Then you wait for a chicken to come along. When he arrives, he puts his beak right on the line and he's hypnotized!"
Joey Santiago
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post #15 of 19

My mom had showed me the article about this outbreak due to chicks. She dosent really deal with my ducks so she thought that it ment my ducks may have it. She nearly freaked out. But thankfuly she didn and i was able to explain what was going on. So I hope everyone washes their hands, wear seperate pair of shoes into their coops, and dont kiss their animals!!!!  I am very frugel about washing my hands after handeling my ducks and whe and we had chickens. Now if only my brother would listen to me about washing his hands, but hes being a typical boy -.-  Hope you and your chicks best of heatlh!

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post #16 of 19

EColi and slmonella almost always gets a hold on the intestines when parasites take over the intestines.  Please read my link on my signature line on worming.

Living the good life with husband of 33 years, three grown, married children, 4 grandchildren.  And about 550 hostas.
Raising LF black javas,  BBS Marans and a few olive and easter eggers for a pretty egg basket.

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See why worming is so important:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7474233

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Living the good life with husband of 33 years, three grown, married children, 4 grandchildren.  And about 550 hostas.
Raising LF black javas,  BBS Marans and a few olive and easter eggers for a pretty egg basket.

Member of the APA.
See why worming is so important:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7474233

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post #17 of 19
Do not woory I wear normal wear including flip flops to the chicken yard and have kissed chickens and dogs and am not dead
post #18 of 19

There  is no reason to believe Privett hatchery is at all involved - the western U.S. has many hatcheries. I believe the the CDC said the hatchery was in Idaho but I'm not sure.

 

Here is a link to the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) for the FACTS about the outbreaks and also links to information on how to protect yourself. http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/hadar-live-poultry-07-12/index.html

 

I think the reason it is so confusing to figure out where the "outbreak" started is because there have been several. Each one seems to be associated with a different strain of Salmonella. From what  I've read some strains are more dangerous than others.

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“Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

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post #19 of 19

From what I read washing your hands might help, but, some salmonella is transferred by just touching the chicks.  I ordered chicks from Ideal poultry.  They are 3 weeks old today.  I got very sick the day after we bought them.  I have a weakened immune system and I washed my hands every time I went near their pen.  The only time I got better is when I stopped touching them at all.  My son feeds them and cleans their bin now.  I have 2 older chickens that I touch all the time and I never got sick.  One I found, another a friend gave me.  I will never order from a hatchery again.

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