Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

Day 16 6/16/12 Thurs

Finished bucket #9 started #11 fermenting


Day 17 6/5/12 Fri

Finish bucket #10 started #12 fermenting -


y 18 6/16/12 Sat

Finish bucket #11 start #13 fermenting -


Day 19 6/17/12 Sun

Bucket #12 empty, started #14 fermenting - Total fermented 100, fed 84C
Fed CC 4C - Total 54C

If this schedule is representative, then at most you are only allowing the feed to "ferment" for a day and a 1/2. That isn't enough time for the crumbles to fully ferment and really isn't enough time for the whole grains. That may or may not have skewed your results.
 
as far as taste . i have done both ways, fermented and non fermented feed. fermenting the chicken feed .the chicken has a sweet taste that can be a little strong.
when mixing mayo the flavor still bleeds through.making for a strange taste.
 
as far as taste . i have done both ways, fermented and non fermented feed. fermenting the chicken feed .the chicken has a sweet taste that can be a little strong.
when mixing mayo the flavor still bleeds through.making for a strange taste.

Bruce, do you think if you switched them from FF to dry the last week or two before processing the meat would still have the tangy flavor?
 
pozz,
i don't have that answer. i have never gave them dry at the last week or two. sounds like something i may dry on a few to see how that goes.
 
I fiannly got my cornishX yesterday. Since reading this experiment I was very intereted in a couple things that I plan to apply to my group.


I keep braggs ACV in their water, not sure if this is enough good bacteria to compensate for the fermented feed. I have also thought of making treats made with fast track or other dry source and see if this is a benefit.

I'm giving the chicks 3 weeks before dividing into 2 groups. Just not sure on the two feeding methods yet, so Ideas as welcome. I'm leary of FF because of the possibility of other contaminants and I'm new to fermenting. I am trying to "grow" more vinegar by adding 1 cup of Braggs to 3 cups of fruit juice.

All input welcome.
 
I fiannly got my cornishX yesterday. Since reading this experiment I was very intereted in a couple things that I plan to apply to my group.


I keep braggs ACV in their water, not sure if this is enough good bacteria to compensate for the fermented feed. I have also thought of making treats made with fast track or other dry source and see if this is a benefit.

I'm giving the chicks 3 weeks before dividing into 2 groups. Just not sure on the two feeding methods yet, so Ideas as welcome. I'm leary of FF because of the possibility of other contaminants and I'm new to fermenting. I am trying to "grow" more vinegar by adding 1 cup of Braggs to 3 cups of fruit juice.

All input welcome.
First of all good luck, broilers are fun! As for just using it in the water, some microbes are better than none. I only had issues with contaminants when my ff was in my kitchen so I believe it was my kitchen's fault. My house was a foreclosure and there was mold in the cupboards near the sink so I believe there were still spores in the area. Once I moved the feed outside, I didn't have a problem. It really is hard to screw it up. This was my first try and it was very easy to tell "good" smells from "bad".
 
Quote: Good to know. I too worry about the kitchen as a source of everything as it is regarded as dirtier than a bathroom.
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It occurrs to me: to use Fast track as the innoculant to the feed, or create morsels or treats using it. In the past I have mixed fast track into yogurt as a treat for young chicks.


I'm concerned about the meat being flavored by the fermented diet-- or did I misunderstand the post above. I can't see the fermenting effecting the meat directly, rather the changes due to a totally different body function.
 
It does flavor the meat. In most cases it makes it flavorful and juicy but other times it can clash with condiments or seasonings.
 
what is the simplest way to make fermented feed starting from scratch?

Get a bottle of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar(ACV) or any other brand with the mother in it, put some feed in a bucket, pour some ACV on top, cover with water, stir, and let sit a few days stirring once or twice a day and adding water to keep it covered as needed. You can make your own ACV but I'm too impatient and have never tried. Once you get bubbles forming, especially when stirring, you're fermenting.
 

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