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post #61 of 261
6/21/12 at 9:26pm

doesn't it hurt the bird, cutting into them and removing it?  It looks painful, and I know it looks worse and deeper than, say, a dog attack, which hurts them a lot.

I am the mama of 9 full-grown hens: 1 Dominikers, 1 Partridge Rock, and 2 Buff Orpingtons, and 5 gold comets

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I am the mama of 9 full-grown hens: 1 Dominikers, 1 Partridge Rock, and 2 Buff Orpingtons, and 5 gold comets

Join my RPG!!  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/745405/walk-in-the-wild-wolf-rpg#post_10488392

Or this one!!  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/748669/pride-of-the-serangheti-a-lion-pride-rpg-needs-members

Or, this one!!  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/764630/stray-wild-feral-ca...

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post #62 of 261
6/21/12 at 10:02pm

I think this could be wonderful for the community. This could allow anyone to have roos, even in the 'burbs! I think icing the area for pain relief and blood loss control is a great idea though. Would definitely do it. I would much rather do this than kill the chicken or risk it being used for fighting. 

 

And for anyone who disagrees or thinks this is cruel..

 

A few minutes of pain for a lifetime of love         Definitely worth it.,

 

Fortunately I can have roos here, but hoping to move before Christmas, so we'll see about the next place. Might have to

2 REALLY Lazy Cats, 2 Dogs, 18 Buff Orpingtons

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2 REALLY Lazy Cats, 2 Dogs, 18 Buff Orpingtons

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post #63 of 261
6/22/12 at 6:19am

I can see both sides of this issue.  This is clearly a surgical procedure which causes pain and discomfort for the bird and everyone is entitled to their opinion.  But, when done properly and with practice, this can be done quickly and efficiently with minimal harm to the bird; the same way getting the shot often hurts more than the stiches themselves would but the doctor wants you still lol.

9 Barred Rocks, 3 Buff Orpingtons,  3 RIR, 3 Black Jersey Giants, 1 Silver Laced Wyandotte, 4 easter Eggers, 5 Pekins, 2 Cayugas, and 10 new assorted chicks-what am I doing?

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9 Barred Rocks, 3 Buff Orpingtons,  3 RIR, 3 Black Jersey Giants, 1 Silver Laced Wyandotte, 4 easter Eggers, 5 Pekins, 2 Cayugas, and 10 new assorted chicks-what am I doing?

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post #64 of 261
6/22/12 at 7:28am
PS: This is not a discussion on whether or not to do it, but how to do it. Can we stay on topic?

== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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== Easy incubator wiring chart: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=65925 Installing a thermostat: http://cmfarm.us/WHTincubator.html
Love those Orps!

I don't care why the chicken crossed the road, as long as mine don't!

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post #65 of 261
6/22/12 at 8:23am
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PS: This is not a discussion on whether or not to do it, but how to do it. Can we stay on topic?

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This thumbs up applies to McGuyvers comment to I just don't know how to multi quote.

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post #66 of 261
6/22/12 at 8:31am
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doesn't it hurt the bird, cutting into them and removing it?  It looks painful, and I know it looks worse and deeper than, say, a dog attack, which hurts them a lot.

It is different from a dog (or preditor attack) it is done in a clean environment w/ cleaned and alchoholed tools.  The cut is precise and location of organs and blood vessels is accounted for.  The inscision is made w/ ultra sharp scalpel not the tearing of half blunt teeth.  I am sure there is some pain or discomfort involved, but the birds don't internalize, rationalize pain like a human does.  I'm sure it's not any more painful then letting roos battle each other until the defeated either get killed outright, or mamed, or sucomb to infection from wounds.

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post #67 of 261
6/22/12 at 9:13am
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Thanks. I thought "Hey, what about a reasoned, well thought out discussion?" and then I decided "nah".

There is no such thing as the lesser of two evils. Evil is an absolute. Being "just a little evil" is like being "just a little pregnant". - Dennis

Raising large fowl Dominiques, guineas, and mixed bantams in Central Oklahoma. I like to build chicken coops, pens and equipment with recycled found objects, less charitably known as JUNK. Hence the user name. 

 

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There is no such thing as the lesser of two evils. Evil is an absolute. Being "just a little evil" is like being "just a little pregnant". - Dennis

Raising large fowl Dominiques, guineas, and mixed bantams in Central Oklahoma. I like to build chicken coops, pens and equipment with recycled found objects, less charitably known as JUNK. Hence the user name. 

 

My BYC member page: http://www.ba...

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post #68 of 261
6/22/12 at 11:30am

I gave this some thought and realized I overreacted to this. I can see where this would be beneficial to have this done to a roo in order to have him be a pet or whatever. I know many animals are castrated with no anesthesia but it does not mean I have to like it. I wish it could be done without the animal having to suffer through it. I also don't expect everyone to share my opinion.
 

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post #69 of 261
6/22/12 at 1:00pm

Where did you get the retractors from?

 

 

random toe punch that is funny

2 dogs, 1 Bearded Dragon, 1 three toed box turtle, and 3 Dominique s 1 Australorp and 1 Bared Rock
"Chicken in the bread pan, picking out dough"..... "Granny does your dog bite?". "No, child no."
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2 dogs, 1 Bearded Dragon, 1 three toed box turtle, and 3 Dominique s 1 Australorp and 1 Bared Rock
"Chicken in the bread pan, picking out dough"..... "Granny does your dog bite?". "No, child no."
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post #70 of 261
6/22/12 at 1:56pm
  • You can search for "Weitlaner retractor" on eBay.  There are different sellers.  Different types and sizes will come up.  You want a 4" or 4.5" model with blunt teeth.

I used to work in an auto parts factory, which is the reason for my handle.  Chickens aren't as heavy, but they're much more entertaining than auto parts!!

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I used to work in an auto parts factory, which is the reason for my handle.  Chickens aren't as heavy, but they're much more entertaining than auto parts!!

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