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discernable difference in meat quality or taste depending on dispaching method?

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So my meaties are 4+ weeks old and I am thinking ahead about the Big Day.   I am considering using a cone and a pair of big hedge shears rather than slitting their throats, as  I am worried about my ability to cut in the right place.  But, I am wondering if any of you out there have noticed a difference in finished product between the birds that bled out (cut throats) vs other methods (chopping head off)? I have 2 weeks to figure this out and get my nerve up.  Any experience would help, thanks.

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I have always slit throat, then we used the lops to remove head. We had problems with the cone and never had luck with it, they were either too big or they flopped out. We did use a large cone. We go to a processor now.

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I've never had one flop out of the cone but I've always used homemade ones that are long enough that their feet don't stick out of it. Won't do it any other way. One is always nervous that they won't get it right the first time and we do make mistakes but don't let that deter you. Each one is easier than the last, though we never enjoy ending a life.

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To tell if the killing method made any difference, the birds would have to be identical.  Raised the same way, fed the same, dispatched at the same time.....

 

It could be done as an experiment, if the birds were carefully marked then cooked exactly the same way at the same time for a taste test.

 

I chop with an ax.  Birds bleed out well.  Some flap so hard it dislocates wings.  I suspect a cone would help with the wing issue.

 

What I think makes a difference is keeping the birds calm.

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post #5 of 10

No matter how you actually kill the bird, you still need to hang it and slit the throat and let it bleed out. We've slit throats, cut heads off, popped necks, no difference. You just need to let it bleed out.

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Well, the kittens aren't so cute anymore and the easter egger cockerels are in the freezer. Plus, I think offering them as "prizes" scared folks off! So, I'm still posting quotes, if you know it let me know. I'm very enamored of this new one, it may hang around for a while!

 

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Rachel BB
 

Well, the kittens aren't so cute anymore and the easter egger cockerels are in the freezer. Plus, I think offering them as "prizes" scared folks off! So, I'm still posting quotes, if you know it let me know. I'm very enamored of this new one, it may hang around for a while!

 

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Originally Posted by donrae View Post

No matter how you actually kill the bird, you still need to hang it and slit the throat and let it bleed out. We've slit throats, cut heads off, popped necks, no difference. You just need to let it bleed out.

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Just make sure they are bled out enough. I cut the heads off and leave them in the cone for at least 5 min before moving on.
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post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Great, thanks for the help. I did buy a new knife (a vent knife) thinking that maybe it work for dispatching as well as butchering. Has anyone tried keeping the birds in the dark to calm them up to the point of going to the cone? When I did crop surgeries, I kept the birds head covered and they remained pretty calm. Maybe I can take them blindfolded...?
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Has anyone tried keeping the birds in the dark to calm them up to the point of going to the cone?

We did not do this.  We have handled the birds regularly - a weekly weigh-in to record growth patterns - walk amongst them 3x/day for feeding and water re-supplies - sit and watch/talk with them.  So they are VERY used to our presence and 'interference' into their daily routines of eating, growing, sleeping in the sun, sleeping in the shade, scratching, chasing bugs, etc. 

 

So for us to walk into the pen with the scale and the little plastic table it sits on (so we can read it easier!), set that stuff up, then start weighing them - that's completely 'normal' in their lives.  They're used to the scale, used to us being among them, used to this little trouble.  What was new - was after being weighed, some left the pen via the gate.  And didn't come back. 

 

Wasn't so bad when we were taking out the 'mean' roosters (leaving the 'nicer' ones for another session).  But they're now down to 1/2 the original flock, and they're getting nervous! 

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-- Blessed are the flexible, for they will not break --

Beloved spouse of wonderful husband, Mom to two men-in-training, 4 Eastern 3-toed box turtles, 1 spoiled parrotlet, 1 pompous feline and a jealous dog.  20 Black Java laying flock.  Love our Java's!  Meaties growin' in the barn.

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My DH and I just processed 10 XC (first time for both of us)highfive.gif  Tried what we thought was a 'really' sharp blade with the first one.  Did not go as well as we would have liked.(wasn't BAD, just more traumatic to US than we would have liked:)  Got some disposable scalpels 3 days later to do the other 9.  Worked like a charm.  Our chickens were also used to us being in their space and handling them.  We processed ours at 8 weeks.  REALLY wish we had done it at 6 weeks.  They averaged 6-1/4 lbs.  Next batch we will control food amount and process sooner.  Live and Learn!

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Has anyone tried keeping the birds in the dark to calm them up to the point of going to the cone?

 

Our kids go collect birds and put them in 5gal buckets (with plenty of air holes of course).  The buckets sit in the shade until we are ready for more birds.  They are usually very calm this way though they are pretty calm even without the buckets.  The buckets just make it easier for the kids to load up eight or more at a time.

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We raise chicken, turkey, lamb, and beef for sale.  PM me if you live in Southern California and are interested in organically grown, pasture fed chicken, turkey, lamb, or beef.

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Heather, Homeschooling Mom to two boys, two dogs, 13 layers, hundreds of meaties; turkeys, steers, goats, and sheep!
We raise chicken, turkey, lamb, and beef for sale.  PM me if you live in Southern California and are interested in organically grown, pasture fed chicken, turkey, lamb, or beef.

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