Elderly Woman Taunted and Bullied by the Teens she was Supervising - Page 3  

Not if that one dad I saw has anything to say about it!

That's the most disgusting behaviour I've ever seen from children and wouldn't expect in a civilised country..

 

I know that there are Westerners who regard their societies as superior to some Asian ones but you won't see vile behaviour like that here. Thailand has its share of social issues but children are taught by their parents to respect older people, whomever they might be. That may seem old fashioned and 'nanny' to some, I suppose.

 

I suspect that the show was deliberately created with the intention of posting it on Facebook. That website seems to pride itself on having no ethical standards. The camera was placed so as to be able to film the victim very clearly throughout and they may have been attempting to provoke her to do something that would put her in the wrong.

 

Something I don't understand is why she put up with it rather than alert the driver and take some action. If she was the bus monitor but had no power to stop behaviour such as that, why on earth was she there in the first place? There's also the possibility that she had done something in the past to annoy the children who wanted to take revenge.

 

If she wants to give up her job, I'll stand in for a day and let them do the same to me - provided I'm guaranteed a holiday fund of at least $500,000.

By environment I meant the place they are living in.  Turn on TV shows like Family Guy, Southpark and all the "cartoons" that kids are bombarded with. If letting that stuff into a child's head is not enough I don't know what is.  A parent hasn't a chance.  You have feminist telling a child that it is improper to hold a door for a woman, mothers acting like tramps instead of ladies and men acting like drunken idiots in front of their kids and most people say "oh it doesn't hurt them I turned out fine" and the like.  I can count on one hand how many men on here act like gentlemen and how many women act like ladies. Trust me I can flush them out of their cover.

 

Raising kids is a full time job... if you want them to amount to something. My wife is a stay at home mom and I figured I needed to work my butt off to keep her there so she could raise our kids and to actually be the ones to raise them. Been accused of keeping her barefoot and pregnant by some of her liberal friends whaen truth is she doesn't want to work.  There is a lot of stuff out there via the TV or internet that parents freely allow in their home. I am constantly telling my kids just the opposite of what the liberals in our schools and universities teach them about morals and what is right and what is wrong.

 

The way I see it when they are adults they will have the knowledge and ability and opportunity to know HOW to make the right choices in life.

 

How many of those kids, in the video, parents actually knew what their kids were doing?... I would have and my wife also.

 

I will admit some kids act poorly despite the parents best efforts.  What is worse is no kids on the bus tried to stop them. 

Edited by chickened - 6/21/12 at 11:23pm

I don't know what your definition of 'liberals' is, chickened, but liberals aren't necessarily amoral. Some of the least liberal people you could meet have strange ideas about what should be the norms of behaviour.

 

Acceptable codes of behaviour change frequently and are subjective and dependent on the culture of any particular society. I think that the prime responsibility rests with parents, many of whom seem to very little in the way of standards, unfortunately. Schools also have a part to play and, in the absence of adequate parenting, rather an onerous one. What bugs me about schools, though, is the tendency for teachers to set standards that they believe are correct behind the backs of good parents. We believed that we were bringing our two children up well and were furious when they both came home from primary school (5-11year olds) confirmed vegetarians. The whole school had been forced top watch videos of slaughterhouses in operation without a word to any parents. In those days it was very difficult to satisfy a balanced vegetarian diet and we had a difficult job to cope with that.

 

The mother of my children was also a stay-at-home mum by mutual agreement. parenting is the most important job anyone can do and children need a parent around at home. In those days, it was becoming common for mums to take jobs so we were swimming against the current. I didn't give a **** what others thought.

 

Parents have between 5 and 8 years from a child's birth to teach him or her the standards that will be carried with them for the rest of their lives. I was determined not to leave that to teachers who banned football at school because it was competitive.

I blame it on Bart Simpson.

 

 

               

I don't buy the "the kids learn it from TV" argument. I grew up on the Three Stooges and violent cartoons, but was able to make a very strong distinction between what was entertainment on the telly, and real life. My parents provided a very stable foundation for what constituted proper attitude and behavior.

 

Today's "sense of humor" is dark, cynical and sarcastic. Cartoon characters on TV reflect what already exists and is being expressed -- it was not made in a vacuum. They actually are intended for adults who already feel that way, but kids end up watching it. Even so, I really doubt any kid is going to make Bart Simpson or Family Guy a role model. I didn't make Moe, Larry or Curly (or Shemp) my role models. Or Bugs Bunny (totally obnoxious, violent, devious dude), for that matter.

 

Don't blame the TV, but hold accountable the parents/adults in the children's lives. So many adults today have no spine, and themselves are whiny and have an inflated sense of self-entitlement. They transfer that onto their children, along with their disrespect for others - including older adults. Watch how adults treat their spouses and their own parents, and you'll get some idea. I am a caregiver for my elderly parents, and frequently, when we go out, people (almost always women) approach me and tell me how wonderful it is that I am such a caring daughter. I smile and thank them, but inside I wonder, "Why do they feel they need to mention this?"  because it just stands to reason that you take care of the people who gave you life and took care of you when you were unable to do it yourself.

Then I realize that maybe a lot of people don't treat their elderly parents well. Kids observe this and that becomes what is "normal" in their world.

Edited by GardenerGal - 6/22/12 at 5:00am

What I think is interesting..... And telling..... Is that not ONE of those boys have apologized to that woman themselves. ONE father has apologized, which is okay but does nothing other than tell his child that he doesn't have to be responsible/accountable for his own actions. Children seem to have no idea these days of the impact of their actions.

The lack of respect is shocking and deeply disappointing. I'm kind of glad that I'm middle aged, I can't imagine what the state of our world will be in another 75-100 years. Makes me shudder.

Just heard on the news that the boys have hand-written letters of apology to the woman.

And, the fund for her has reached almost $500k.

 

 

So very true!

Had that woman got up and started whacking them kids it would have ended. She was being attacked folks!!  Now any parent that would come along and sue the woman or the school fits my definition of  "liberal".  Kids need effective discipline and they have taken that away and replaced it with psychology.  They are reaping what they have sown.  The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

How can you blame a parent when society takes away the right for you to raise them as you seem fit?  although some blame is appropriate.  If I acted that way at school trust me the punishment at home would be a lot worse than an apology letter.  Kids know what they can get away with.

 

Thai you are right after your kids enter the public school system you had better entrenched your moral values and discipline because they will be challenged and you will also by those charged with giving your kids an education.

 

I have seen this behavior on a city bus before and the cops were called.  And the kids were taken to jail.

Edited by chickened - 6/22/12 at 6:26am