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post #11 of 23

Confusion with Easter Egger chicken

The Ameraucana Breeders Club defines an Easter Egg chicken, or Easter Egger, as any chicken that possesses the blue egg gene, but doesn’t fully meet any breed description as defined in the APA standards. Further, even if a bird (that possesses the blue egg gene) meets an APA standard breed description, but doesn’t meet a variety description or breed true at least 50% of the time it is considered an Easter Egg chicken.

Gem, a Easter Egger pullet sold by Ideal Poultry as an Ameraucana.

The American Poultry Association's American Standard of Perfection contains breed and variety descriptions of all recognized standard breed poultry in North America. This means if your bird does not meet a color requirement, it is in Easter Egger. However, it is highly unlikely to see an Easter Egger which meets all APA standards yet doesn't have the correct color. They are almost always mutt birds, or those descended from the Quechua.

While many hatcheries claim to sell "Ameraucanas", "Americanas", or "Araucanas", nearly none of them do. Most sell mutt Easter Eggers.

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Ameraucanas were bred from Easter Eggers, a mixed non-standard breed derived from breeding the native South American Araucana with Old World varieties. The APA officially accepted Ameraucana as standard breeds in 1984.

The characteristic muff and beard of the Ameraucana are present in U.K. Araucana as these traits are present in the Mapuche and Quechua de Artes founder stock imported into Europe from the Falkland Islands. The fully feathered faces of the founder stock are of vital importance as they insulate the birds against the frigid cold of southern coastal South America. Winds from Antarctica bring the temperatures to below zero for months at a time. Blue egg laying chickens brought to the Falklands by Argentinians, traded from Mapuche and Quechua speaking Indians, were later exported from the Falkland Islands by British guano and fishing fleets. The Ameraucana is descended of U.K. Araucanas brought into North America during the World Fair in Montreal's 1967 Expo. Molecular data retrieved from specimens of known provenance in the Falklands, U.K., Shetland Isles and Canada, proved to be closely related. Consequently, the Ameraucana is probably closer genetically to the South American founders than the North American Araucana. In about 1976 a group of people imported some Chilean Araucanas. At least one of these people kept his flock breeding only among themselves. Chicks from their blue eggs looked similar to the British tailed Araucanas and the Ameraucanas, however most do not meet the standards of those breeds. They resemble Falkland island birds, and are descendants of the founder birds of Chile (Quechua).

(Wikipedia) 

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post #12 of 23
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Ya I've heard that EE's are not a true breed since they are mixed but they do have Ameraucana in their genes! I love EE's and I can't wait to find out what these little girls look like! I love their variety in colors and ya I'ce checked out the Ameraucana's Breeder Club with all the standards and requirements for a true Ameraucana to meet! Thanks everyone!

post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by WasabiChicki View Post

I've purchased "Ameraucanas"  from breeders that were EEs & EE's from the feed store that came in as Ameraucanas... THey ARe the SAme THinG!!!!

*The breed that is not the same as these is the Araucana; a mix of two breeds, supposedly rare, from South America & Spain I believe... (Could be wrong)

 

 

I have 5 Ameraucanas from a hatchery, sold @ feed store as "EEs"... They are all completely different colors... I will look to see if i have pics.

Not true.  Easter Eggers and Ameraucanas are not the same thing.  

 

There is an Ameraucana breeders website you should check out.  Also, a wealth of info on this web site, many reputable breeders.  You should take some time and learn about these two chicken breeds.

 

BTW, if you purchased 5 EE's at a feed store, they were probably really EE's, not Ameraucanas.  There are no hatcheries that sell Ameraucanas to feed stores.  You can post your pics and get answers here.

post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by modchicken View Post

Ya I've heard that EE's are not a true breed since they are mixed but they do have Ameraucana in their genes! I love EE's and I can't wait to find out what these little girls look like! I love their variety in colors and ya I'ce checked out the Ameraucana's Breeder Club with all the standards and requirements for a true Ameraucana to meet! Thanks everyone!

I have 2 EE's.  They are very sweet girls and lay very regularly, maybe 5 eggs a week each.  Lovely blue eggs with a smooth shell.  You will love your EE's!

post #15 of 23

I have pictures of EE.

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Light Sussex.  A beautiful, large, and friendly breed.

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Light Sussex.  A beautiful, large, and friendly breed.

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post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by WasabiChicki View Post

I've purchased "Ameraucanas"  from breeders that were EEs & EE's from the feed store that came in as Ameraucanas... THey ARe the SAme THinG!!!!

*The breed that is not the same as these is the Araucana; a mix of two breeds, supposedly rare, from South America & Spain I believe... (Could be wrong)

 

I have one Araucana who is "rumpless" & has the ear muff looking things: She is from a breeder.

(I don't know all the technical terms.)

 

I have 5 Ameraucanas from a hatchery, sold @ feed store as "EEs"... They are all completely different colors... I will look to see if i have pics.

They are definitly not the same thing

happy dad of a GSP and a BLRW and FBCM  and a WL and a BR and a BA and a SS and an EE and a GLC 

 

 

 

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happy dad of a GSP and a BLRW and FBCM  and a WL and a BR and a BA and a SS and an EE and a GLC 

 

 

 

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post #17 of 23

The feed store I got my chicks from had ordered 50 "Ameraucanas" but because they varied so much in color I figured they were EEs & the hatchery, (in Fresno, CA) 

sent them as Ameracaunas.... guessed they are the same, I stand corrected!  I will post better pics of mine tomorrow; they are about 5 weeks old now. Here is one or two pics w/ them in it, the birds that look like baby hawks:

 

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Nor Cal Mama of 3 incredible kids & wife of an incredible tattoo artist: We are cusodians of 2 honey bee hives, a bluenose pit, a chow/shepard mix, and 39 feathered friends... I homestead on the hill... nothing I'd rather do. (Besides play soccer!) 

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post #18 of 23

Rule of Thumb: If they came from a hatchery via feedstore or hatchery direct, they are Easter Eggers. Ideal sells EEs. McMurray sells EEs. Cackle and Welp sell EEs. You name it, they sell EEs, no matter what they call them.

 

There is nothing wrong with Easter Eggers. Have some myself. I also have true blue/Black/splash Ameraucanas from breeders. Both are wonderful. What is wrong, IMO, is false advertising and refusal to listen to the breeders who keep asking them to start being truthful. That won't lose them any sales because people love their EEs!

 

 

This thread is wonderful for its discussion of the differences between Ameraucanas, Araucanas and what all the hatcheries sell, the Easter Eggers:

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=128806

 

You can start out with three chipmunk-looking EE chicks and each one will look different as an adult, so it's really hard to be certain how they will turn out.
 


Edited by speckledhen - 7/8/12 at 4:43am

 

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post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by WasabiChicki View Post

The feed store I got my chicks from had ordered 50 "Ameraucanas" but because they varied so much in color I figured they were EEs & the hatchery, (in Fresno, CA) 

sent them as Ameracaunas.... guessed they are the same, I stand corrected!  I will post better pics of mine tomorrow; they are about 5 weeks old now. Here is one or two pics w/ them in it, the birds that look like baby hawks:

 

2012-06-29 14.36.12.jpg

2012-06-29 14.35.53.jpg


Too cute!!

post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by speckledhen View Post

Rule of Thumb: If they came from a hatchery via feedstore or hatchery direct, they are Easter Eggers. Ideal sells EEs. McMurray sells EEs. Cackle and Welp sell EEs. You name it, they sell EEs, no matter what they call them.

 

There is nothing wrong with Easter Eggers. Have some myself. I also have true blue/Black/splash Ameraucanas from breeders. Both are wonderful. What is wrong, IMO, is false advertising and refusal to listen to the breeders who keep asking them to start being truthful. That won't lose them any sales because people love their EEs!

 

 

This thread is wonderful for its discussion of the differences between Ameraucanas, Araucanas and what all the hatcheries sell, the Easter Eggers:

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=128806

 

You can start out with three chipmunk-looking EE chicks and each one will look different as an adult, so it's really hard to be certain how they will turn out.
 


Thanks and ya I love EE's!! When I asked the  breeder if he had EE's he said they were out and that only had Americanas (spelled wrong..) so ya I figured and hoped they were actually EE's! They're my favorite "breed"!!!

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