The thread heading doesn't say so and there are members here from several countries. In any case, I was responding to a poster from the UK. A few people may gain by learning what other countries do about welfare systems. 
The thread heading doesn't say so and there are members here from several countries. In any case, I was responding to a poster from the UK. A few people may gain by learning what other countries do about welfare systems. 
My mother needed it in 80's you can see her and say boy she is disabled..my husband you would have a hard time telling he got it right away all he had to do was get cancer stage 4...he has been on 5 differn't chemo's but only one made his hair fall out .try thinking twice before you spout off...then and only then speak if you have bitten your tounge so hard it bleeds.
"A whistling woman & a
crowing hen are neither good for
God nor men"
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is an old Irish
proverb
"A whistling woman & a
crowing hen are neither good for
God nor men"
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
is an old Irish
proverb
In regards to SS fraud think about it. The folks running the show do not want to scare off their customers. SS investigates their own claims in house. They go by the numbers... less people apply less people needed to administer the program. Their job is to approve or deny, once on the grid those folks that approved them would not be needed.
Again it is the abusers in the system that ruin it for the people that really need it. I think we are all smart enough to know an abuser when we see one .
The fact that 98% are refused benefits tells me the system is abused just not successfully.
"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."
The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.
Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton agreed on little publicly, but they did agree that when the public treasury becomes a public trough and the voters recognize that, they will send to government only those who promise them a bigger piece of the pie
"Guns don't kill people abortion kills people."
The human will is too powerful for philosophy or science.
Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton agreed on little publicly, but they did agree that when the public treasury becomes a public trough and the voters recognize that, they will send to government only those who promise them a bigger piece of the pie
If you think about it, disability in some form or another happens to all people (except a small number) at some point. Some may make it until the very last part of thier lives without becoming disabled at all (sudden deaths like stroke, heart attack), but for most people disability can occur at any life stage and it can be due to accident, disease or aging. So, most everyone can expect to become disabled in some way at some point in thier lives unless they are very lucky and pass suddenly from an illness or accident which does not cause a decline in ability prior to death.
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...

If you think about it, disability in some form or another happens to all people (except a small number) at some point. Some may make it until the very last part of thier lives without becoming disabled at all (sudden deaths like stroke, heart attack), but for most people disability can occur at any life stage and it can be due to accident, disease or aging. So, most everyone can expect to become disabled in some way at some point in thier lives unless they are very lucky and pass suddenly from an illness or accident which does not cause a decline in ability prior to death.
But if later you will be collecting retirement and/or Social Security right ?

improvise adapt and overcome 

improvise adapt and overcome 

Disability isn't relegated to genetics alone, and even genetic level disabilities don't always pass on.
Should a person paralyzed from the hips down in a car accident be denied a family? Should a man who lost an arm or leg during service to his country be prevented from procreation? What of a woman who has suffered a head injury leaving her with occasional seizures?
Those are all disabilities which could lead a person to collecting SSI or SSD benefits, and none would be passed on to their children due to 'bad genetics'.
Don't count on it.
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...

Disability isn't relegated to genetics alone, and even genetic level disabilities don't always pass on.
Should a person paralyzed from the hips down in a car accident be denied a family? Should a man who lost an arm or leg during service to his country be prevented from procreation? What of a woman who has suffered a head injury leaving her with occasional seizures?
Those are all disabilities which could lead a person to collecting SSI or SSD benefits, and none would be passed on to their children due to 'bad genetics'.
And having a genetic disorder that can be passed down should limit people from having children? if so, where does that end? People with a family history or stroke and heart disease? Cancer? mental illness in the family? No kids for you! It might be genetically linked! Little people in your family? No kids for you! So the Nazis had it right then? No breeding for the "inferior" people with bad genes? Why stop at the disabled, why not stop the poor or other ethnicities and races from breeding since they are such a drain on society?
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...
I have: Bantam Naked Necks, Mini Cheviot Sheep, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Rabbits
Wish List: CAE Free Nigerian Dwarfs or Pygmy goats. Bantam NN's Quality Silkies, Runner Duck, LF Moderns, Bantam Cornish and Anything Chocolate!
Selling Locally: Hatching eggs, Mini Rex, Jersey Wooly & Lionhead Baby Bunnies
Re-homing: (free to BYC'rs) Mini Rex Rabbits: Blue Buck (Pedigreed), Black...


