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I need help ironing out the details of our new home built chicken house.

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    We are first time chicken owners, our flock consists of what was supposed to be 6 standard sized hens, 2 bantams and 3 ducks. Well, one of our "hens" has turned out to be a roo. But that's besides the point of this thread.

 

We recently moved into our forever home and decided to build a small barn for our critters. (We will be getting goats soon) It's a 12'x16' pole barn. We have it almost finished, just some little things here and there to do, like a few more pieces of trim, paint, 3 more windows to install, flooring, roosts and nest boxes. Who would've thought the building of the 4 walls, and roof would be the easy part!?! I'm starting to get overwhelmed now, it's almost done but I have no idea what to do about a floor! I've read several posts on here about wood floors but we live in the Pacific Northwest, a wood floor would rot in a very short time. I've also seen people recommend cement flooring but we've already spent to much on this thing, cement might break the bank! We also have some gaps between the ground and the walls that I'm not to sure what to do about. Taking wood all the way to the ground might be a big mistake due to all the rain we get in the winter.

 

    In the beginning of our great idea for this "chicken mansion" as my husband likes to call it, we thought we were just going to let the chickens/ducks have the whole thing to roam freely in, but now, seeing how big it is I'm wondering, would that be a mistake? Can I just collect all my chickens, ducks and soon to have goats every evening and put everyone in the barn, close the door and call it a day? Or, should each different type of critter have their own enclosure inside the barn? A coop within a coop? idunno.gif 

 Oh I have no idea what I'm doing!! Please, help!

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post #2 of 24

Can you leave the floor of the coop as dirt and put rocks around the perimeter to block any gaps between the walls and the ground?

 

I don't keep goats so I'm not sure about them.  I believe they need to be separate from the chickens because they will eat all the chicken food and that's not good for them but hopefully one of the many people who does keep both can answer that better for you.  It is fine to keep different species of poultry together however.  I have chickens, ducks and guineas who all reside in one 10x14 coop at night with no issues.

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I was wondering if I could just leave it dirt but what about cleaning? Will it hold more junk that will make my critters sick? I will clean it regularly of coarse, just like I do now with the temporary coop and chicken yard they are currently in, but I'm just concerned it'll cause health issues. Your coop is a big one too, what kind of flooring do you have? And, is it easy to clean?

I was thinking about using bricks to close the gaps, what do you think about that?

Thank you so much for your help, I have seriously been losing sleep over this, I'm really overwhelmed! I'm not usually an easily stressed person but holy smokes there's so much to consider and so many options! I just want them to be happy, healthy and safe and I want me to be happy and able to care for them as easily as possible! Which is why I'm also second guessing my original idea of letting them have free run of the entire pole barn, that might require more cleaning then I bargained for. 

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post #4 of 24

There is a school of thought that dirt floors are actually healthier for them.  I'll see if I can find some information for you.

 

My coop is brand new too as I just moved here a month ago.  The whole coop-build saga is written up with pics if you click on the "My Coop" under my name there to the left but the short answer to your question is that the property we bought had a concrete slab already on it so it made sense to build the coop on the slab.  I haven't had to completely clean it out yet and plan to use the deep litter method to made cleaning easier anyway. 

 

However at my old house I had a dirt floor and didn't have any health issues.  The main problem I found with the dirt floor was that mice created an elaborate burrow system under it, in order to steal my chicken feed.  I haven't been here long enough for mice to find us but I'm sure they will eventually so I plan to build a treadle feeder to try to avoid feeding them when they do show up.

 

Bricks around the outside would work just as well.  My mind automatically went to rocks because we have so many of the darn things here but if you have to purchase whatever you use, bricks might be easier to work with and get a more uniform appearance.

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post #5 of 24
The worst thing for chickens is dampness...dirt is fine, as long as it stays dry. Why don't you look into pricing out foundation gravel or filler to raise the floor and provide drainage around the coop. I would also study deep litter method of bedding, that has worked out fine for me, even with wood floor, it worries me when you say it will rot, it shouldn't if your roof doesn't leak, lotta wood in the NW...all your poultry can live together...goats....they could...but like mentioned,they will eat all the food....good luck! :-)
post #6 of 24

My Grandpa told me once, "when I was a kid we had one barn for everyone to share. The chickens roosted in the hayloft, horses in stalls, milk cow in a stall, goats and geese in the middle at night. None of this fancy chicken coop and goat pen and goose run stuff." He says these days we all sweat the small stuff and don't let the animals be animals. I say let 'em all live together. However, I do agree that the goats will eat the chicken feed... so you'll have to solve that problem. Dirt floor is awesome, just rake the mess into a wheelbarrow and put it in the compost pile :)

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post #7 of 24

Yes the goats will eat the feed, plus some goats can be very aggressive and chase the chickens, as long as they can get away it should be fine.
 

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Urban farmer 5 orange trees 3 peach trees 2 avocados 1 lemon 1 lime 1 plum 1 loquat and an always rotating crop of vegetables.
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post #8 of 24
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HEChicken, yes! I've seen your coop, I actually just posted a comment there. Your coop is great and I loved seeing your progress. You were so detailed in your descriptions it was great! You had the cinder blocks around the bottom of yours for the gaps, right? That was genius and looks great! I wish I had stuff like that laying around here to use but unfortunately, nope we don't, we have to buy everything we need. I will definitely have to look into the deep litter method, I don't really know what that is. I think I could guess pretty adequately, the name is pretty self explanatory. Lol

What's a treadle feeder?

 

Achickenwrangler, I'm just thinking if the wood goes right to the dirt and the dirt is wet 8-9 months out of the year, I would think the wood would rot pretty quickly. Maybe not, I'm no building expert but that's what everyone around here is saying. We've spent a pretty penny on this barn, I'd hate to have to replace the wood by next summer. Your comment makes me think I should look into it more though, I might be worrying over nothing!

 

Skunknchatter, Ha!! That's what I was thinking! I started thinking, maybe I watched to many farm animal movies as a kid because in Charlotte's Web and all the others I can't think of now, they all lived together! Lol. I know, I know, t.v isn't reality. wink.png

 

Thanks everybody for all your advice and input, it helps a ton and I really appreciate it! Please, keep it coming! 

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post #9 of 24
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Yes the goats will eat the feed, plus some goats can be very aggressive and chase the chickens, as long as they can get away it should be fine.
 

 Good to know! Thanks! The goats that can be very aggressive with the other animals, is that breed specific or just different personalities from goat to goat?

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post #10 of 24

A treadle feeder is a box that holds the feed and it has a treadle arm that goes out to a little platform.  The idea is that a 4lb weight on the platform will raise the lid of the feeder, allowing the hens to eat, and as soon as they step down it will close again.  A mouse or rat doesn't weigh enough to trigger it to open.  My only concern is that a chick doesn't weigh enough either, so if I have a broody hen raise chicks, they won't be able to eat from the feeder unless their mother steps on it for them.

 

Deep litter method (DLM) is pretty self-explanatory.  The idea is that instead of scooping the poop out, you just cover it with another layer of bedding.  Eventually it starts to compost in place, and there have been instances where the heating up/composting action of the pile actually provided a little heat in the winter which would be a lovely side benefit if it works that way.  My plan is to only thoroughly clean the coop about twice a year.  In between, I will scatter a little scratch over the top to encourage them to dig and scratch.

Enjoying my 10-acres of country heaven with 50+ chickens, turkeys and muscovy ducks!

 

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How to build a hoop house in 10 easy steps here

 

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Read about my fox attack here

Read a fox attack survival story here

How to build a hoop house in 10 easy steps here

 

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