Colorado Shooting - How horrible! - Page 6  

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

We aren't allowed to talk about gun laws, we are told, but suggestions of extra-legal murder by the authorities is OK. Instead, how about a sensible discussion about:

 

1. What is wrong in a society that causes such things to happen?

 

2. What help should be given to the victims an their families?

This stuff happens in every society.

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Originally Posted by rebelcowboysnb 

This stuff happens in every society.

So it's OK?

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Originally Posted by mom'sfolly 

The reports say he had 4 guns, a glock, another handgun, a shotgun, and a something like an AR-15.  I can only imagine how bad a shotgun could be in such close quarters, and how terrifying it must have been for those involved. 

 

My heart goes out to all of those families affected by this outrage. 

      Lets all pray for the comfort of the affected families 

   Another sad thing is that there are people who will endorse a knee jerk legistration after this. Owning more than one fire arm is not all that unusual. The problem is Why, Some may be collectors or reinactors. or target shooting enthusiasts or is a hunter. Then there are those who rely on them to protect themselves and their family. All these are legitamate reasons. And these people are as horrified at what happened as much of the rest of us   

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

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Originally Posted by rebelcowboysnb 

This stuff happens in every society.

 

So it's OK?

You cant stop random killers from happening.

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Originally Posted by NoZolbitty 

      Lets all pray for the comfort of the affected families 

   Another sad thing is that there are people who will endorse a knee jerk legistration after this. Owning more than one fire arm is not all that unusual. The problem is Why, Some may be collectors or reinactors. or target shooting enthusiasts or is a hunter. Then there are those who rely on them to protect themselves and their family. All these are legitamate reasons. And these people are as horrified at what happened as much of the rest of us   

Agreed, except I send my thoughts and wishes rather than 'prayers'.

Governments use such incidents to restrict the rights of individuals, so the many are disadvantaged because of the actions of the few. The fact is that guns alone kill no-one but people with guns do. So what's the right balance?

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Originally Posted by rebelcowboysnb 

You cant stop random killers from happening.

You can limit their opportunities.

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

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Originally Posted by rebelcowboysnb 

You cant stop random killers from happening.

 

 

You can limit their opportunities.

No you can only change the how, where an who.  The opportunities just move.

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Originally Posted by thaiturkey 

We aren't allowed to talk about gun laws, we are told, but suggestions of extra-legal murder by the authorities is OK. Instead, how about a sensible discussion about:

 

1. What is wrong in a society that causes such things to happen?

 

2. What help should be given to the victims an their families?

Well here you go, this kid is obviously a product of our university system and approaching his Ph D so he has been there 4 years or so and learned how to attain and build sophisticated devices most likely from the Internet or a physics class and his behavior is a product of the environment he has been educated in that tell you if it feels good you just do it.  The young man has no moral compass nor does society have the ability to stop a man from pulling the trigger at that pivotal point that would have prevented this tragedy.  Many people plan and fantasize about doing someone in but are regulated by a corer system of beliefs and standards. Some on here say this kid snapped well I got news for you this was well planned in advance the kid did not snap.

A speedy trial and a punishment to fit the crime is in order for the victims.

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Originally Posted by rebelcowboysnb 

No you can only change the how, where an who.  The opportunities just move.

I don't follow. Please explain.

If you ban the tool, they will build the tool or use another tool.

If we secure a place they will chose another place. Usually the bottleneck you create trying to secure the first place.

Even if you can remove all opportunity from a class or group of people, another class or group of people will fill the void.