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One of our chickens was limping so we isolated it in a cage for about a week out in the barn. Then we put it in the coop. One day while my dad was giving it fresh water, it decided it wanted to take a little stroll... It ran outside the coop and into the run but all the other chickens went after it. They pecked it and chased it too. we talked to someone who has some expirience in chickens. She said that one lady bonked all the other chickens on the head until they stopped. She just waited it out. Since they only had 3 chickens and we have 6 (really 7 just including the ones that aren't hurt) that might make some difference in that equation some where... But for now we're just waiting until hetr leg heals so she can run from then if she has to.caf.gif

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Well yes, sometimes there is a chicken that will be bullied. She  can get hurt sometimes, and in severe cases, she can get killed. It has happened before to other people. Some people keep that chicken separate from the others and some just leave t alone, let the chickens solve it amongs themselves, and hope for the best.

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When a chicken has been separated for a time, it's kind of like it's a new bird when it's reintroduced, and so it gets chased and pecked some as a new bird would.  If you have the space, choose the mildest mannered, easiest going chicken of the flock to put with this bird while it's healing.  That way it'll have a buddy when it goes back in.

If that's not possible, after the leg is healed, you might try putting the bird back on the roost well after dark and hopefully, in the morning, the others will think it's been there the whole time.

Caretaker of a lovely mixed flock including: australorp, plymouth rocks, wyandotte, d'uccles, silkies, EEs, andalusian, and a few seramas, plus a golden retriever, great dane, and three cats.
R.I.P. Bear 2010 - "The Best Dog Ever"

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Caretaker of a lovely mixed flock including: australorp, plymouth rocks, wyandotte, d'uccles, silkies, EEs, andalusian, and a few seramas, plus a golden retriever, great dane, and three cats.
R.I.P. Bear 2010 - "The Best Dog Ever"

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post #4 of 13

The one that is the most of a bully might be the gang leader and the others might be doing what she is doing, you could put the bully in a separate place instead. Hope that helps! :)

I have 2 cats, 1 Golden Retriever, 2 gold fish, and now 13 chickens. :)

Tough Cookie (T.C.) Cleo, at 6 weeks old, died in April 2012. Kanaliha Cleo, at 9 weeks old, died on May 14, 2013. They are greatly missed.

"Know this, my beloved brothers. Every man must be swift about hearing, slow about speaking, slow about wrath." James 1:19

 

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I have 2 cats, 1 Golden Retriever, 2 gold fish, and now 13 chickens. :)

Tough Cookie (T.C.) Cleo, at 6 weeks old, died in April 2012. Kanaliha Cleo, at 9 weeks old, died on May 14, 2013. They are greatly missed.

"Know this, my beloved brothers. Every man must be swift about hearing, slow about speaking, slow about wrath." James 1:19

 

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I have a HUGE blue Marans hen, her name is Hermione but we call her "Her-meany," who has been bullying my 16 week old Ameraucanas since they joined Hermeany and the others WEEKS ago. She isn't even my "Mother Hen," as my older Ameraucana is the one who sits at the coop door and calls everyone to bed. A few weeks ago, I plucked her fat mean butt out of the doorway of the coop as she was bullying them and chasing them off at bedtime. I put her in the broody sin bin that night and the next (letting her out for the day), and she was good for a while. Well, the pullets won't get up on the roosts now because Hermeany kicks them off, and tonight I caught her guarding the coop door. barnie.gifSwoop! We put her BACK in the sin bin. Our new rooster is in the 'baby grow up' coop right now, and won't be ready to boss her around for a while, but I CAN'T WAIT until he is ready. Until then, I guess I will just keep doing what I'm doing, unless someone brilliant out there has another idea? Anyone?

 

Now, I completely understand chicken math. 2+3+2+2 eventually = 21. Plus four humans (sometimes five, depending on oldest son), two canines, and three felines. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking of more!

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Now, I completely understand chicken math. 2+3+2+2 eventually = 21. Plus four humans (sometimes five, depending on oldest son), two canines, and three felines. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking of more!

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I have two chicken tractors - one has the chickens I started with last year (4 Isa's and 3 Black Sex Links) and the other is new this spring and houses the other chickens (7 Easter Eggers varying from 2 1/2 mos. old to 4 1/2 mos. old - 2 of which are roosters -  and 3 Cuckoo Marans who are 2 1/2 mos old). One of the Isa's has always been low on the totem pole. I noticed a little over a week ago that she would always be on the roost in the coop when I would go out to give treats, check on their food/water, collect eggs, etc. By Monday every time I would open the nesting box lid or the door she would try to dive out. I finally figured out why . . . every time she would go out to forage or get a drink of water (I keep the water outside during the summer months because it takes up so much real estate in the coop) the rest of the girls would attack her!!! She couldn't leave the coop without them going after her. Her poor comb is all peck-ed up. Two of the hens had her pinned down in the corner at one point and were ripping at her comb as she was screaming and trying to escape! I took her right out of the coop and introduced her to the other flock to see how she would get along. The younger flock free ranges for most of the day and is locked down at night. My 5 mo. old rooster threatened her a couple of times the first day. I had several days off work this week so I was able keep a close eye on everyone. By the second day, Cruiser (the rooster) and the Isa were nearly inseparable. Originally Cruiser watched over the 3 EE pullets that are about 4 1/2 mos. old. Now he pretty much ignores them. I have a younger group (2 1/2 mos. old that were all supposed to be pullets) that roosts in the lower level of the new chicken tractor - the 'pullet' in that bunch that started crowing a couple weeks ago keeps his lot of 5 girls away from Cruiser and the older lot.

In the meantime, one of the other Isa's in my first coop ended up being eggbound so I spent a day (Wednesday) giving her epsom salt baths and belly/rump massages. She could barely walk or keep her balance. She just flopped on the ground for most part and had to use her wings to balance her body to move. I thought she had broken something before I figured out she was eggbound. The rest of the chickens actually acted like they were concerned and would go lay next to her in the pen. After they were so mean to the other Isa, I was stumped. This poor girl was so off-kilter I thought for sure they would attack her. I kept her isolated after the baths until she was fully dry so they wouldn't peck at her bum (her vent was nearly protruding from trying to push so much). When I finally figured I had done all I could for her and put her back in the coop, hoping she would go sit in the nest box, the other hens didn't go after her or bother her at all. The biggest, pushiest BSL stood guard over her while she laid out in the grass (she still couldn't walk very well). This same BSL finally settled down just a few inches away and pecked at the ground with her - copying her basically. I saw this and thought maybe I could reintroduce the other Isa back into the flock. As soon as I put her back in, they attacked her (all but the eggbound Isa, who couldn't even if she wanted to). They started chasing her and pecking at her until she fled back into the coop and up to the highest roost. So now she will most likely be a permanent resident of the new flock. And she now bullies them! Except for Cruiser, because he just won't tolerate it. She still wants to go back into the old coop to lay her egg though. She followed me around the yard the first two days and would run over whenever I opened the nest box up (the new coop has a far different nest box design and I don't think she gets it yet). I put her back in via the outside entrance to the box. She laid her egg and wanted right back out. I didn't put her in there today - I was hoping she would use the nesting boxes in the new coop but she didn't. If she laid an egg today, I have yet to find it. I checked most of the areas they range in the most, including the round pen for the horses that seems to be their favorite place to scratch around. In the meantime my eggbound hen finally laid an egg - the smallest egg I've ever gotten from these girls. As bad off as she was I expected a monster-size egg but it was about 1/3 the size of the eggs I normally get from them, darker brown, and speckled quite heavily. I'm not sure if it's edible or not, considering it took her 2 1/2 days or more (she may not have laid Tuesday either as I only got 3 eggs that day and one was from the outcast hen) to lay it and she soaked in warm Epsom Salt baths for so much of Wednesday. She is walking better - she's a bit stiff yet but is looking very lively, eating, and drinking well. The majority of my vacation week that was originally going to be spent painting, organizing, and getting caught up in general was spent dealing with chicken drama, lol. Ah well . . . they are worth it.

Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

My chickens ~ 8 Isa Browns, 3 Black Sex Links, 1 BR, 5 EE's, 3 Cuckoo Marans, 17 FBC Marans, 5 Lt Brahmas. 1 EE Roo. A mixed lot of 12, 16 Wellsummer and 2 Salmon Faverolle chicks.

Other Barnyard ~ 1 Paso Fino, 1 Mule

Other ~ 1 spoiled house cat and at least a handful of foster pups/dogs . . .

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Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

My chickens ~ 8 Isa Browns, 3 Black Sex Links, 1 BR, 5 EE's, 3 Cuckoo Marans, 17 FBC Marans, 5 Lt Brahmas. 1 EE Roo. A mixed lot of 12, 16 Wellsummer and 2 Salmon Faverolle chicks.

Other Barnyard ~ 1 Paso Fino, 1 Mule

Other ~ 1 spoiled house cat and at least a handful of foster pups/dogs . . .

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Haha I am not the only crazy chicken person out here!!  I have been dealing with a bully as well.  I have 1 who is over a year old (Nutmeg), she lost all her friends to a dog attack.  So I had to start over. I got 3 babies from TSC in March, let them out with Nutmeg when they were 9 weeks old, kept them in a cat carrier in the coop for a week before letting them roost with Nutmeg.  Now they are about 19 weeks old and get along mostly, they can't feed at the same time as Nutmeg as she will peck them.  And of course since I had to start over I wanted certain breeds so I ordered some chicks (7) and got them June 6.  I have been trying to get them all in the coop to sleep at night but there is trouble.  I worry Nutmeg will kill the babies.  This has been a long process, I had to put the youngest ones out around July 4, when we were hit by that big storm (derecho) and lost power for a week, sleeping in the basement because we had no power since it was cooler there, the babies were in the basement and starting to stink so out they go.  Kept them in a kids playpen thing for several nights and in the run during the day when the others were free ranging.  Well I was so worried about something getting them I started putting them in cat carriers in the coop at night.  So all the chcikens got to see each other for about 2 weeks and then I started integrating them at feeding time.  One of the ones I got in March is a banty, I was hoping she would get along with the babies since she is little, WRONG.  She chases them more than anyone else.  I have to go out of town for work in a week and know my husband won't do what I do with the girls so Iam working very hard to get them all together without anyone getting hurt or killed.  During the day I let the older ones out to free range and the babies stay in the run.  Thru out the day I will go out and let the older girls in while I supervise so they can eat.  I keep a stick with me to stop some of the aggression (I don't hit them it is a good way to stop something before it happens).  The 3 from march are pecking some but not too bad.  Nutmeg on the other hand I am still afraid she is going to get one of the little ones and kill it.  For the last 3 nights I have been putting the babies in the coop then letting the older 3 come in.  I referee until they settle down (yes I am sitting in the coop sweating to death so no one gets hurt).  Then I put Nutmeg in a cat carrier and she has to sleep in the run (the run is very secure, small hardwire cloth and covered).  I have done this the last 3 nights, I am out there for an hour to make sure eveyone is ok.  Tonight Nutmeg hi-tailed it into the coop early and got in a nesting box!  Well the babies were ready to go in but knew she was in there so they would go in and out, in and out!  Finally they got settled and the 3 from March had roosted on a branch in the coop.  I waited til it got a little darker and put them in the coop.  Nutmeg was still in the nesting box.  I have to make sure to get up early to open the door to let them out!  Am I crazy or what, all day I have been thinking if I was some hard core farmer I wouldn't care about who is getting along with who and let them work it out.  Soft hearted and my chickens are my pets!! I am crazy.  Everything revolves about those girls!  Worse than having babies. 

 

I have read on several post to seperate the bully for several days and then reintroduce her to the flock, she will then be the low man in the pecking order.  I have also read not to take away the one being picked on but to take away the one doing most of the picking.  I also agree with putting one of the friendly girls in with her to have company and so when you introduce them back it isn't as bad.

Mom to 2 kids, 2 cats, 1 fish, and 11 girls (Haley - banty, Nutmeg - Buff Orp, Teddy - Red sex link, Bella - Tetra Tint, Pepper, Salt and Dot - Dominiques, Summer - Welsummer, Cheeky and Muffin - EE, Freckles - Speckled Sussex) And the wife of one very wonderful husband who puts up with me and my chickens!

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Mom to 2 kids, 2 cats, 1 fish, and 11 girls (Haley - banty, Nutmeg - Buff Orp, Teddy - Red sex link, Bella - Tetra Tint, Pepper, Salt and Dot - Dominiques, Summer - Welsummer, Cheeky and Muffin - EE, Freckles - Speckled Sussex) And the wife of one very wonderful husband who puts up with me and my chickens!

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From a fellow real redhead, lol (well strawberry blonde these days - I've faded in my old age). We must be nuts!!!

 

I think if it's just one bully - definitely separate her. Sometimes changing just one chicken may rework the social structure of the whole coop. In my case I couldn't figure out if it was just one bully because they all attacked (except for the eggbound girl). If you can separate her for a couple of weeks while the others grow up a bit and bond better, when you re-introduce her it may make all the difference. If you could set her up parallel to the others that would be good so that she doesn't feel so alone . . .
 

Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

My chickens ~ 8 Isa Browns, 3 Black Sex Links, 1 BR, 5 EE's, 3 Cuckoo Marans, 17 FBC Marans, 5 Lt Brahmas. 1 EE Roo. A mixed lot of 12, 16 Wellsummer and 2 Salmon Faverolle chicks.

Other Barnyard ~ 1 Paso Fino, 1 Mule

Other ~ 1 spoiled house cat and at least a handful of foster pups/dogs . . .

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Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

My chickens ~ 8 Isa Browns, 3 Black Sex Links, 1 BR, 5 EE's, 3 Cuckoo Marans, 17 FBC Marans, 5 Lt Brahmas. 1 EE Roo. A mixed lot of 12, 16 Wellsummer and 2 Salmon Faverolle chicks.

Other Barnyard ~ 1 Paso Fino, 1 Mule

Other ~ 1 spoiled house cat and at least a handful of foster pups/dogs . . .

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Yes we are crazy maybe it is a red head thing!!!  Well tonight I was watching the clock and waiting for bedtime (for the chickens) and I heard Nutmeg Clucking.  So out I go and she is in the coop daring anyone else to come in.  The babies are beside themselves knowing that they should go in but afraid of Nutmeg.  So in the coop I go and try to coax them in while keeping Nutmeg at bay.  The 3 -19 week olds also wanted to come in but didn't want to be bothered by nutmeg.  I think I have them all settled when Nutmeg starts pecking and grabbing.  Out fly the babies.  So Nutmeg goes in the cat carrier in the coop.  Then everyone else got settled.  Today I had them together a lot in the run and even left them for 4 plus hours all toghether and no one was killed.  All the babies seemed ok when I chcked on them but they are scared of the older girls (all of the older girls!).  I figure if they can get along during the day then Nutmeg will just have to go in the cat carrier at night.  I am leaving for a week next Sunday for work and my hubby will have to take care of the girls.  He might let them out to free range some but not as much as I do (spoiled girls).  Hopefully everyone will be better adjusted before I leave.  You work so hard keeping them alive as chicks I don't want anything to happen now!! 

Mom to 2 kids, 2 cats, 1 fish, and 11 girls (Haley - banty, Nutmeg - Buff Orp, Teddy - Red sex link, Bella - Tetra Tint, Pepper, Salt and Dot - Dominiques, Summer - Welsummer, Cheeky and Muffin - EE, Freckles - Speckled Sussex) And the wife of one very wonderful husband who puts up with me and my chickens!

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Mom to 2 kids, 2 cats, 1 fish, and 11 girls (Haley - banty, Nutmeg - Buff Orp, Teddy - Red sex link, Bella - Tetra Tint, Pepper, Salt and Dot - Dominiques, Summer - Welsummer, Cheeky and Muffin - EE, Freckles - Speckled Sussex) And the wife of one very wonderful husband who puts up with me and my chickens!

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Hermeany is back in with all of them now. Tonight they all were up on the roosts, too. It was funny last night when I went to lock up, Hermeany put herself in the dog carrier. Maybe she just needed some time away from those pesky teens?

 

And guess what, gaitngirl? I've got one who is egg bound. :( How did yours do?
 

Now, I completely understand chicken math. 2+3+2+2 eventually = 21. Plus four humans (sometimes five, depending on oldest son), two canines, and three felines. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking of more!

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Now, I completely understand chicken math. 2+3+2+2 eventually = 21. Plus four humans (sometimes five, depending on oldest son), two canines, and three felines. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking of more!

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