Originally Posted by Bunnylady
Originally Posted by getaclue
Simple observation tells you a couple things about eating red meat. While cancer existed back in the day of our great grandparents, it was not commonplace like today. They ate red meat, and plenty of it, however, the animals didn't eat a lot of genetically modified feed, and hormones given to them like today. Their source of red meat was not always beef, since plenty of people hunted deer, which is also a red meat, but they ate red meat. All indigenous Texans would all be extinct by now due to cancer if this were true. It may be true today about eating red meat, but it was not always so, which could be a clear indicator that we need to pay more attention to farming methods, and the way we process our foods.
You are overlooking something - a lot of the things that killed people off in our great-grandparents' day have been tamed by modern medicine. People are astonished at the carnage in the American Civil War battles, yet twice as many died of disease in the camps as died as a result of wounds.
I recently heard a statistic that something like 1 out of 7 people died of Tuberculosis only a century ago.
A woman who dies in childbirth won't be around to develop the breast cancer that her genetics predispose her to . . . whatever her diet.
There are some cancers that are a direct result of environmental exposure, but cancer usually takes years to develop, and if a person dies of something else first, they don't get entered as a cancer statistic, do they?
Cancer has NOT been as tamed by modern medicine as much as we would like to think it has, nor is it an old person's disease. St. Jude's, All Children's Hospitals, Shriners Hospitals all deal with childhood cancer patients all around the country. I am not saying red meat does not contribute, but that the way commercial cattle are fed, given hormones, and processed today might have a lot more to do with it. While it used to be uncommon for younger women to get breast cancer, it's rapidly becoming more commonplace for women in their early 20's and 30's to be diagnosed with it now. For the record, almost 50% of the women tested after having breast cancer, are not genetically predisposed to it. The reason it's important to be tested, and know this information is for the follow up treatment. Any good oncologist will tell a breast cancer survivor that decreasing processed foods in their diet, and including as much organic foods as they can, while it's not conclusive, but studies show that there is a correlation between decreasing processed food in the diet, and increased survival rates. Scurvy, and rickets are two diseases that have been eliminated through diet. Diabetes can be greatly improved through diet, but far too many processed foods nowadays contain various sugars. I'm not saying better practices in both growing, and processing our food will cure all ills, but it does have a lot more impact than we tend to realize. Yes, modern medicine has done wonders in plenty of areas. The development of antibiotics has stopped people from dying from TB, and various other things. Immunizations have eliminated plenty of diseases. That still does not mean we should be negligent of the impact on health by radically modifying our food sources for the sake of increased production, while decreasing nutritional benefits derived from our food.