Originally Posted by Alaskan
The goat getting was fine... Not too hard to chunk them in the back, it was terrifying to hear them pee, and pee, and pee
Yeh, you better get use to PEE and enjoy lots of it...billy goats are notorious (the dairy type ones more so than the meats) for peeing liberally on themselves never mind the two scent glands on their heads that they will wipe on anyone unfortunate to be near enough for a treatment. I found this part of goat ownership over the top disgusting. The nannies are suppose to like this eau de toilette scent of the males! I was told that Boer goat was mild flavoured in comparison to other chevron and all I could taste when I was given sausage to sample was that gamey pee/scent gland smell...yeh...gross. Goats are safe in my care, not harvesting any of their meat any time soon thanks.
The male goats make a vested point in consuming each others pee and they pee on their own front legs, faces and beards--they seem the happiest when in a sticky smelly mess. I tried bathing the two bucks I had years ago, but finally gave up because it was not minutes after I released them sans their coatings that they were right back to "prettying themselves up for the gals!" Let's jest say there is alot of deterrents to "Hugging a Billy!"
Yeh, the free male kid does not surprise me in the least--we stopped once at a public park on Van Isle where someone had dumped a Billy off...poor thing and you could smell HIM long before you ever saw him. This free male goat is sorta chalked up to when someone wants to give you an intact jack donkey. Yeh--greenhorn pet markets are the most common target to find where the ignorance abounds. What a rodeo is in store on that situation and the sooner you make Jack a John, the better...think stallions of the horse variety are a handful...you have no idea what Jacks are capable of--screaming, shaking, shuddering covered in sweat--and that's when they are adequately contained. I once visited a co-worker's relative that raised donkeys on a farm...they had their Jack in one of those metal corral bull pens with a top...he looked totally unmanageable as some of the girls were cycling...like when aren't the females doing just that...poor guy--he was a mess. An intact male can never be trusted and only with hard work and constant understanding devotion, can an amiable relationship be maintained.
Same can be said about male llamas and alpacas...that are coddled and cuddled so they end up imprinting on humans, thinking the homo sapiens are also camelids. Not much is said about the berserker male syndrome until some poor sop is mystified as to why their camel beast is trying to literally hunt them down to kill or at the very least, castrate them with their wolf teeth and hooves. My neighbours had one of these incurable misfits--I felt sorry for all involved as it boiled down to simply not knowing any better--duped by the cuteness so to speak--not much cuter than a cria, eh. Intact males are meant for serious breeding situations where you never casually turn your back on them. Never to be trusted no matter how nice nice they have been in the past up until now. I know of people that have been killed by up to then gentle rams, bulls (duh), jacks, llamas, and stallions, etc.
I currently have a wethered sheep and a wethered llama that are absolute sweety pies. Might be because I own a Burdizzo, and my advice (take it or leave it) so should you or your vet clinic.
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Tara Lee Higgins
Higgins Rat Ranch Conservation Farm, Alberta, Canada