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So sorry for all you're dealing with Wisher. As hard as it is, remember that he will never give you more than you can handle. He's always there to carry the overburden.

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I own: BOs/BAs/New Hampshires/Delawares/White Wyandottes 

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I use FF: http://goo.gl/IT5HSh Details Here: http://goo.gl/dCdw6h  Start Easy video: http://goo.gl/QP5rSx

DLM/deep litter method: http://goo.gl/YHg2p0 My coop(s): http://goo.gl/v9qdFa  URL shortener:  https://goo.gl/

I own: BOs/BAs/New Hampshires/Delawares/White Wyandottes 

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post #52862 of 56185

WRT drilling and tapping.   you can drill and tap sixteen gauge for a number six screw.  you get about one and a half threads...  enough to hold sheet metal .

 

Typically two to three threads is enough.   Because the fastening is NOT for strenght only for affixing the materials together and making a water tight seal.

 

NPT theads are designed to form an interference fit....  because of the taper.... 

 

I have used trilobular screws for thread forming in plastic.  Too bad they havent thought of that in creating the water nipplebase.    then all you would have to do is drill a pilot hole and the trilobular screw will form its own threads without creating Chips...  it simply deforms the metal or plastic into threads.

 

 

first number is the diameter the second number is the amouth of threads per inch....

In case someone didnt know that...

 

6-32 screw is .138 diamter with 32 threads per inch....     the threads are spaced at .03125 apart or 1/32...  2 threads will form through sixteen gauge material  again sixteen gauge is approximately 1/16 thick...

 

I guarantee you a bucket is thicker than 1/16 of an inch   1/8 npt would have threads spaced 27 per inch which would be spaced about .037 apart  two threads would need .074 thick.... 

 

 

 

but here is the dilema...  the taper...  The tap would best be only threades so far into the material...  making the threads smaller in diameter thatn the final seat point of the nipple base.  so when you screw it in to seat it you will deform threads.  Causeing even an irregular hole to be forced to seal.

 

and yep Using a drill press I have drilled holes that werent round into aluminum due to a poorly sharpened or dull drill bit.     I used to sharpen my own bits when I worked in the machine shop.  

 

sorry am blabbering.

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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post #52863 of 56185
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Thanks, Ron, Deb, Les, and Joe.  It was my middle son (DS#2, the one who loves all things medieval) that lost his friend in a wreck last October.  He was also the driver in the rollover that happened not long ago.  He and his younger brother, as well as another friend were all buckled in and none were hurt too badly, no broken bones, no stitches.  I really appreciate all the thoughts and especially the prayers, but it was just a bad day, I'll be alright.  It takes more than that to do me in.

TIN STAR POULTRY - working toward  Standard bred Silver Campines --

Plus, A ragtag gathering of Ameraucanas for blue eggs, Black Copper Marans for dark brown eggs, and a pair of good

Rhode Island Reds.                                                Celebrating the second half of my first century!
 

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TIN STAR POULTRY - working toward  Standard bred Silver Campines --

Plus, A ragtag gathering of Ameraucanas for blue eggs, Black Copper Marans for dark brown eggs, and a pair of good

Rhode Island Reds.                                                Celebrating the second half of my first century!
 

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post #52864 of 56185
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I had a rough day.  Woke up to a headache (not uncommon) and DH#1 and DS#3 had to go to Bessemer (about an hour away) for the boy to play a baseball game.  So everyone skipped church.  When they got home, DS#3 found out that one of his good friends (also 15) was in a rollover accident on the way to church this morning.  The friend was wearing his seatbelt, but his older brother (17) who was driving, was not.  He was ejected and killed. I have cried and hurt all day for that family.  Next, my niece called to tell me my sister is back in ICU.  She has been in and out of the hospital for the better part of a year and we were really starting to believe she was past the critical stage.  Today, her BP was hovering around 90/45....not good.  To top it off, when I went to see my Dad (94,) he didn't know me, but kept asking where I was.  That's not the first time that's happened, but I was already feeling emotionally weak and it got to me.  The one bright point is that we worked on the garden entry gate/pergola until after dark.  I was so happy with the way it has turned out so far.  I will post a couple of pics.....

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post #52865 of 56185

Wisher, you town has had your fair share of heartache this past year. :hugs Hopefully it's a reminder to all that seatbelts are essential. 

 

Your gate looks good and I agree it's medieval looking. I love it.

A lonely blue girl guards the riverbed, she shakes her brown torch at the tide...

 

 

 

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A lonely blue girl guards the riverbed, she shakes her brown torch at the tide...

 

 

 

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post #52866 of 56185

@Wisher1000 - wishing you 1000 :hugs. I'm so sorry to hear about your son's friend's brother - such a tragic loss. 

 

I'd just been thinking about your sister, and hoping that "no news is good news," as they say; sorry to hear about her recent setback. 

 

Love the gate - I bet you will too, when you get it installed.

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Good Monday morning everyone, hoping at least most of you had a great Father's Day.

 

Bunnylady- How's your mom?  prayers of course! :hugs  So sorry I am a bit late, busy weekend for "dad'. 

 

Wisher - No words for your day, just a huge hug for  you and a small prayer for your son.  what a horrible, heartbreaking week he has ahead of him.

 

Deb (and everyone else in the heat) -  Please stay safe!!!  I thought it was horrible yesterday with our 90o.

 How in the world do you keep your animals alive in that kind of heat? Or yourselves???

 

I'm wishing everyone a great first "Official" day of summer!!!  

 

 Be safe all my peeps!  


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post #52868 of 56185
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Good Monday morning everyone, hoping at least most of you had a great Father's Day.

 

Bunnylady- How's your mom?  prayers of course! :hugs  So sorry I am a bit late, busy weekend for "dad'. 

 

Wisher - No words for your day, just a huge hug for  you and a small prayer for your son.  what a horrible, heartbreaking week he has ahead of him.

 

Deb (and everyone else in the heat) -  Please stay safe!!!  I thought it was horrible yesterday with our 90o.

 How in the world do you keep your animals alive in that kind of heat? Or yourselves???

 

I'm wishing everyone a great first "Official" day of summer!!!  

 

 Be safe all my peeps!  

Shade shade shade is the key.


Horse is fine she dozes in the shade.... and has a 110 gallon water tank to drink from.  When I have poultry they seem to do the same things as she does.  eat little, nap in the shade drink alot.    I used to make mud puddles for the chickens to get their feet wet in....  but they would dry out within aobut half an hour...  then the mud would dry out after that. 

 

Next time I will do waifding pools filled with Decomposed granite holespoked in the bottom of the pools and drip irrigation to keep them wet.  

 

Remember this is dry heat... Right now Ihave a sinus head ache.   My face is flaking off .....  When I do have to do chores in the heat it gets done before 11 am and after 6 pm 

 

It was 105 day before yesterday 103 yesterday and it will be 103 today.  with NO heat index

 

down in the imperial valley it will be consistently ten degrees warmer and dryer....  if you stop at a rest stop and hopp out to go get a drink the force of the heat knocks you back.   Like standing in front of the oven.

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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post #52869 of 56185
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 if you stop at a rest stop and hopp out to go get a drink the force of the heat knocks you back.   Like standing in front of the oven.

 

deb

 

Been there, done that. Moved to Vermont!

2 each: Black Australorp, Salmon Faverolles, 1 each Ancona, Easter Egger. From Ideal Poultry, hatched June 12, 2012


2 JGs (non standard BAs??), 2 White Rocks, 2 EEs. From Meyer, hatched June 8, 2015



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2 each: Black Australorp, Salmon Faverolles, 1 each Ancona, Easter Egger. From Ideal Poultry, hatched June 12, 2012


2 JGs (non standard BAs??), 2 White Rocks, 2 EEs. From Meyer, hatched June 8, 2015



Bruce

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post #52870 of 56185
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 if you stop at a rest stop and hopp out to go get a drink the force of the heat knocks you back.   Like standing in front of the oven.

 

deb

 

Been there, done that. Moved to Vermont!


Yet in San Diego it was 66 degrees last night at bed time...  BIG difference between Medeterranian climate and real desert...   Same goes for My place.  WE are only a few degrees warmer but the spread between night and day is that much.

 

AC goes off in the middle evening and doesnt come back on till morning.

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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