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NJ Animal Restraint in vehicle bill includes prohibition of selling chicks - NJ PEEPS MUST SEE

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As with any bill there are always items attached that have absolutely nothing to do with the original point of the bill. The NJ legislature is currently reviewing a bill regarding safe travel of animals in vehicles (the same issue that has been all over the news lately).

If you read the entire bill there are other proposed issues regarding other animals. If this bill is enacted it will be illegal for someone to SELL CHICKS UNDER 2 MONTHS OF AGE!

Of course, this is ridiculous and, like much pending legislation, unless someone reads the entire bill many laws are enacted because no one realizes what they include.

PLEASE contact your state representatives regarding this bill!!!

 

 www.njleg.state.nj.us/2012/Bills/A3500/3221_I1.HTM

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Maybe they want to be sure they are weaned.  Considering the intelligence level of our current crop of legistators that is a real possibility.  The sale of dog hair and products made of same makes no sense to me.  I know people who spin the hair of their Samoyeds. It makes a lovely soft warm yarn.

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This subsection 4. R.S.4:22-26 has nothing do do with vehicle restraints or cruelty to animals. Politicians make me nuts. Will this apply to individuals or to breeders, farms, and hatcheries as well? This is a bad bit of legislature.

 

How is it cruelty to chicks to sell/barter/give away as pets? How about as livestock or is that also prohibited by subsection "r" under "any purpose not prohibited by subsection q".? How convoluted can you get?

 

q. Sell or offer for sale, barter, or give away living rabbits, turtles, baby chicks, ducklings or other fowl under two months of age, for use as household or domestic pets;

r. Sell, offer for sale, barter or give away living baby chicks, ducklings or other fowl, or rabbits, turtles or chameleons under two months of age for any purpose not prohibited by subsection q. of this section and who shall fail to provide proper facilities for the care of such animals;

 

I will definately be calling my reps about this one.


Edited by JerseyHen - 7/31/12 at 8:59pm

1 DH, 1DD, 1 boxer, and a flock of 27 chickens, 12 chicks, 33 bobwhite quail, Welsummer, Speckled Sussex, Faverolles, Barred Rocks, Brahma, EE, Blue Wheaten Ameraucana, Marans, Leghorn, and silkie. Member: APA, APWS, ASCA

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1 DH, 1DD, 1 boxer, and a flock of 27 chickens, 12 chicks, 33 bobwhite quail, Welsummer, Speckled Sussex, Faverolles, Barred Rocks, Brahma, EE, Blue Wheaten Ameraucana, Marans, Leghorn, and silkie. Member: APA, APWS, ASCA

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Seems like you could get around that by only selling chicks as livestock and not pets.

 

Maybe they are wanting to stop the e\Easter craze of people buying ducks and chicks and ditching them as soon as they get larger. By limiting them being sold as 'pets' that would stop people just getting something 'cute'.

 

People interested in ducks and chickens as livestock are going to be more prepared to raise them and feed them and less likely to ditch them when they are not young, simply because we *want* them grown as that is when you get the eggs/meat.

 

The pet industry is not being hurt by selling adult birds as they need less supplies like a brood pen, which families who just want a pet might lack, and the livestock industry is not hurt, since the bill clearly states that the ban is on pets, not livestock.

 

Just how I read it though.

Proud mom of 7 Archie Kehr Kelso and Hatches. Holiday and Wyatt (cocks) and their ladies, Clemintine, Rosemary, Norma Jean (spangle), Calamity Jane, and Betty Sue (pea comb); as well as 5 Dominique Hens and One Dominique Roo (Basil).

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Proud mom of 7 Archie Kehr Kelso and Hatches. Holiday and Wyatt (cocks) and their ladies, Clemintine, Rosemary, Norma Jean (spangle), Calamity Jane, and Betty Sue (pea comb); as well as 5 Dominique Hens and One Dominique Roo (Basil).

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It seems from what I'm reading the part about selling chicks under two months passed. I don't see mention on a minimum number though. With the two boys running around I'm getting too distracted trying to navigate the states wording. So now what as far as chick sales this year?
SAHM to three boys, Mac the Akita, Miss Kitty, Oreo the rabbit, a couple of Sebbies and I lost count on the chickens!
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SAHM to three boys, Mac the Akita, Miss Kitty, Oreo the rabbit, a couple of Sebbies and I lost count on the chickens!
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This subsection 4. R.S.4:22-26 has nothing do do with vehicle restraints or cruelty to animals. Politicians make me nuts. Will this apply to individuals or to breeders, farms, and hatcheries as well? This is a bad bit of legislature.

 

How is it cruelty to chicks to sell/barter/give away as pets? How about as livestock or is that also prohibited by subsection "r" under "any purpose not prohibited by subsection q".? How convoluted can you get?

 

q. Sell or offer for sale, barter, or give away living rabbits, turtles, baby chicks, ducklings or other fowl under two months of age, for use as household or domestic pets;

r. Sell, offer for sale, barter or give away living baby chicks, ducklings or other fowl, or rabbits, turtles or chameleons under two months of age for any purpose not prohibited by subsection q. of this section and who shall fail to provide proper facilities for the care of such animals;

 

I will definately be calling my reps about this one.

I think they want to make sure they are weaned. A friend of mine once told me I would feel a lot better once I figured out that logic and common sense  has nothing to do with anything, particularly when it comes to politics and politicians.

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The obvious takes a little longer.
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