You can always read about what I went through yesterday with my 7 month old doe giving birth yesterday. Sorry I don't know how to link it here. It was nerve racking. I'm sure things will workout.
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Where is the other thread??
I would milk mom for the colostrum - avoid store bought unless it's your only option. Bring baby in the house, get out your heating pad and get it warm ASAP. Force feed it mom's colostrum, as much as you can get down it.
I am SO SORRY! Feel free to email or PM me if you'd like...
Hi Helmsted - glad to see you are now online. No one was earlier. The "other" thread is a separate one I started under emergencies.
Right now I have the frail one wrapped up in a sweatshirt curled up in my lap against my stomach. It seems to have stopped shivering and did finally stop screaming. I'm on my way outside to try and tie Confetti. I had tried holding her but she's wild and I was afraid she was going to trample them. She seems to have taken to one kid only and is bathing it but she was head butting this other one.
I knew I needed to bring it in and get it warm before I did anything else. It was so cold.
I don't think she had given birth much earlier than when we discovered her. There is still wet blood and goo on her backside but the stillborn one was starting to get stiff. The frail one has dried stuff all over it and needs a bath. The healthy one looks cute and healthy as can be and is running around and following mama and not taking no for an answer. It may be nursing by the time I get back out there. I hope so because maybe I can slip this other one under her. I really want her to raise these babies.
By the way, the healthy one looks just like Bitsy and the frail one is black and white. I'll post pics when I can.
My doe Sugar rejected one of the kids from her last set of twins in the exact same manner. I was able to get colostrum in that baby by tying Sug to the barn wall, pinning her against it (practically sat on her), holding her tail up (she would lay down to keep the kid off her) and allowed the little doe to nurse. BUT That kid wasn't weak at all...I was there for the birth so was able to intervene right away. I was just lucky...once I was satisfied with the 24 hrs of colostrum, I bottle fed for the next 8 weeks. I had to hold that darn doe as described above EVERY HOUR for 24 hours. It sucked.
If you have any goat farms around you - call and see if they have frozen colostrum since your girl is kinda wild and might be hard to milk...otherwise yes, get some from the store...
I put this on bheilas thread but thought I'd add it here also. In my researching and getting ready for my own first time kids I found out that you cannot bring the body temperature of a kid up to the proper point by holding it against a human. A goats temp is around 102-104 and a person's is 98.6... not warm enough. A secondary heating source - like a heating pad as mentioned by helmstead (who has far, far more experience than I) is necessary to warm up a kid.
Best wishes Ruth for two healthy happy kidlings.
I'm already getting nerve wracked and mine aren't due for a couple more weeks.
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OH my goodness Ruth! get that baby in front of a heater and hold that moma down and milk some clostum out of her and give it to the baby. Sounds like she is rejecting it becuase its weaker. You may have another full time case on your hands. If you can catch that doe try really hard to get some of that clostrum out of her for the baby and bottle or syringe feed it to her. Its really the best thing you can do for that baby at this point. BEST OF LUCK! Keep us posted! Lordy all this Goat baby delivery dramas going on on BYC these past couple days and I have babies due anytime now. Talk about making someone nervous!
Well it's been a wild ride thus far this morning. Right now both kids are wrapped up in sweatshirt in front of heater in my bathroom wih Rex. He bathed/licked them and won't leave guard position. Meanwhile, while Rex is watching the kids, I've set up new quarters in my tack room for the mama and babies. It's almost completely closed off in there and stays much warmer just with the Sportsman incubator going but I've put a heater in there as well and am waiting for it to warm up. I just moved mama in there because she was crying - I'm guessing she's wanting her babies.
This morning, I did as suggested and had my own little rodeo. Had to practically hog-tie Confetti and nearly got killed in the process but I managed to get each foot tied so she could not move. Then I put the frail baby under her and it took a while but it finally found a teat and sucked away. I can only hope and assume it got colustrum. The other kid didn't seem interested in sucking and in fact, just wanted to sleep. I think it was sucking while I was inside with the first one because one of the teats already looked pulled down and "used".
Now I'm going to take the babies back out and wait and watch and see what happens. I had always planned on using the tack room as my birthing room/nursery/milking room and the other half as my incubator hatchery room. I just didn't get around yet to putting a divider down the middle. I kept trying to check Confetti for the signs I had read about but never could tell anything from feeling the udder or feeling for tendons. Never saw any mucus plug.
But, fortunately, she did deliver all three kids herself and seems fine. I've also not found any afterbirth I've read about.
Well, I'm off to my next adventure.
Well here are the pic:
In the stall:
The frail one:
Meeting surrogate mom Rex.
Nice and warm and sleeping in my bathtub with a warm blower heater on them.
I had just gone in to move them back outside but the scene was a real Kodak moment. Both babies asleep and Rex asleep on floor next to them. I'm going to leave them a little longer since I think they have eaten and are now warm and tired. I'm guessing it's like with human babies - NEVER wake them up.
If that little black baby were here, it would get some BoSe and some B Complex. Looks like she had poor placental attachment.
They are ADORABLE, BTW! The buckskin...
Probably mom ate the placenta.