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Poll Results: What type of comb do you think this is?

Poll expired: Sep 30, 2012  
  • 0% (0)
    Single Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Walnut Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Strawberry Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Cushion Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Silkie Comb
  • 100% (2)
    Rose Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Buttercup Comb
  • 0% (0)
    Pea Comb
  • 0% (0)
    V-Comb
  • 0% (0)
    None of the above - Unique blend
  • 0% (0)
    Other - A comb type not listed
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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I have a chick (Lucky) that is not quite 7 weeks old and he is developing what appears to be a Rose or Strawberry type comb.  However, his mother is a Welsummer (Single Comb) and his father is a (not quite 100%) Black Silkie with a Walnut comb.  Elvis (his father) is pictured in my Avatar.

 

He has 5 toes and has more black in his coloring, but he appears to have gotten most of every other feature from his mother - with the exception of the comb, which is not like either.  If I were to breed the two again, would all the chicks' combs look like this?  This is the only hatchling of the pairing.

 

Here are a couple of pix.

 

 

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Lucky has a pretty interesting story, and he's "lucky" to be here.  You can read the details of his harrowing hatching in this thread - http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/678204/near-term-egg-severely-cracked


Edited by adcgroup - 8/3/12 at 8:30am

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Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

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Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

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post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 

Another question - why would Lucky develop this kind of comb when parents are Walnut/Single?  Any genetics experts out there?  Is this a 1+1=2 type of thing or a more complex genetic cocktail in which some recessive this or that had a 5% chance of showing up and did?

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply
post #3 of 10

Rose comb looks like a redcap roo to me.

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post #4 of 10

Silkies have Modified rose comb, that's why when mixing they produce clear rose comb babies.
 

post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

So a "redcap" is like a modified form of a Rose comb, right?  How did the Rose comb or variant occur from a Single/Walnut combination?  It that just what happens when you combine the two?  So many turn out Single, so many turn out Walnut, and a certain percentage develop a Rose or variant?

 

Just wondering if I make the match again will I come up with a similar result.

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

Is that why some people refer to a "Silkie Comb" rather than a "Walnut"?  Everything's a variant somewhere down the line I guess.  If I mate the two parents again, can I expect the same type of combs for each of the offspring?

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

Here are some pictures of Lucky's half-sister, Winter.  She has a (not quite 100%) black Silkie father (Elvis, my avatar) and a Silver Ameracauna mother (not show quality, but all the visible features - as opposed to a run of the mill Easter-Egger).

 

Now Winter appears to be combless with feathers growing out of a comb-like area.  My Ameracauna's didn't look like that when they were young.  Winter also has blue earlobes, dark skin, and 5 toes (from the father).  She seems to get everything else from her mother, except she is almost rumpless!

 

In this case, she didn't get a rose comb and picked up a different trait not found in either parent - the rumpless(ish) trait.  Are Aracaunas and Ameracaunas closely enough related that there is a recessive gene - or is this most likely caused by an "Aracauna in the woodpile" somewhere back in the mothers heritage?

 

 

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- Feathers growing out of a shadow of a comb

 

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- Blue ear lobes

 

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- Some tail, but not the several inches that all others her age have

 

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- Another view of the rumpless-ish appearance.  Didnt get a good shot of the 5 toes.

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply

Amateur Poultry Farmer

Silkies, Ameraucana/EE, Rhodebars, Rhode Island Reds, various mixed breeds and Lucky.  Multiple blue ribbons.  13 winners in the 2013 NC State Fair.

 

R.I.P.

Baby Fuzzy - THE Silkie hen. Beloved mother and friend - Killed by a black snake protecting her 15 babies (it got 6 of them) 7/3/14

Gumball - Baby Fuzzy's #1 girl - sudden death July 2014

Henry - killed by...

Reply
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by adcgroup View Post

So a "redcap" is like a modified form of a Rose comb, right?  How did the Rose comb or variant occur from a Single/Walnut combination?  It that just what happens when you combine the two?  So many turn out Single, so many turn out Walnut, and a certain percentage develop a Rose or variant?

 

Just wondering if I make the match again will I come up with a similar result.

no a redcap is a breed of chicken

RedCapMUK.JPEG

 

its all in the genetics of the parents. there is never any telling of what will come out of them and you may or may not get another chick that looks like that

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post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by adcgroup View Post

Is that why some people refer to a "Silkie Comb" rather than a "Walnut"?  Everything's a variant somewhere down the line I guess.  If I mate the two parents again, can I expect the same type of combs for each of the offspring?

most people dont know what type of comb a silkie comb is but most do know what a silkie comb looks like. again no you can not expect the same comb on each baby 

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post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by adcgroup View Post

Here are some pictures of Lucky's half-sister, Winter.  She has a (not quite 100%) black Silkie father (Elvis, my avatar) and a Silver Ameracauna mother (not show quality, but all the visible features - as opposed to a run of the mill Easter-Egger).

 

Now Winter appears to be combless with feathers growing out of a comb-like area.  My Ameracauna's didn't look like that when they were young.  Winter also has blue earlobes, dark skin, and 5 toes (from the father).  She seems to get everything else from her mother, except she is almost rumpless!

 

In this case, she didn't get a rose comb and picked up a different trait not found in either parent - the rumpless(ish) trait.  Are Aracaunas and Ameracaunas closely enough related that there is a recessive gene - or is this most likely caused by an "Aracauna in the woodpile" somewhere back in the mothers heritage?

 

 

700

- Feathers growing out of a shadow of a comb

 

700

- Blue ear lobes

 

700

- Some tail, but not the several inches that all others her age have

 

700

- Another view of the rumpless-ish appearance.  Didnt get a good shot of the 5 toes.

s/he's not rumpless in any way those feathers will grow out probably more like a silkies tail fluffy.  they are mixes there i no telling what you will. ever get and this is the breed/gender section you need to post your genetics questions in the other section and post one large post not multi-post, that can and maybe consider bumping you have to give people time to respond to the questions you ask. 

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/f/14/breeds-genetics-showing  genetic questions such as the ones you are asking about comb and breeding need to go here

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