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10 week old pullet walking on elbows

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Hello!

 

A few days ago we noticed that one of our 10 week old pullets was walking on her elbows. When we picked her up we also noticed that her toes seem to curl. She seems to want to keep her left leg more straight out and won't/can't really stand up. She is a bit thin too. Up until now she has been fine from what we can tell. We check on them multiple times per day and she would always be with the other 10 that are about her age and 15 that are about a month older. I've researched online and found a few possibilities, but am not sure what is wrong. Many of the things mentioned seem to happen to very young chicks and she didn't have any problems before. If anyone has any advice, please let me know. I'll answer any questions that might be helpful in figuring this out. I can take pictures if that would help.

 

Thanks, 
Bev

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I'm hoping it could be a vitamin deficiency.  It could also be Marek's.  If another bird comes up with it, possibly Marek's.  Have any of your chicks ever been exposed to other birds not on your property? (not day old hatchery chicks).

 

Marek's = unable to walk, most of the time one leg forward, wasting, maybe a cloudy eye, pecking at food but not really eating it. 

 

If needed I have a bunch of info on Marek's at the bottom of my signature.  I hope that's not it. 

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I had a pullet that did the same thing. It scared me to death! They had all just taken dust baths and seemed fine. After hanging out a while in the shade, one girl stood up and began walking just as you described. She wouldn't stand, and began rather waddling like a duck. She did finally stand and walk normally again after a very good bit. A few days later, another pullet did the same thing. I've noticed this is something they do after their wings become saturated with dirt/dust. Is your bird continually walking like this? Is it something that just started? It may indeed be a vitamin deficiency or another condition - or if it 'comes and goes' it may be something similar to what I experienced with my birds. -hope that you find out soon - and hope that your birds recover well.

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I've read the articles about Marek's and it doesn't seem to be it? Her right leg she keeps out front, but her left leg is generally under her. The only other real similar symptom would be she is thin. Her appetite is good and her crop gets full. Her water intake is also good..No other bumps or anything. Her feathers look good also and her wings work well. She seems to use her wings to reposition herself at times. Her stools seem fine with no diarrhea.The only birds we've brought in were four 1 year old guinea hens from a person who is NPIP certified. They haven't had any direct contact with them. All of our other birds, both younger and older, are doing very well. I know over the last week or 2 a couple of our male guineas and some older chickens have gone in their area and stirred everyone up. I just wonder if she got shuffled around with all of the commotion? We have 2 different age groups that are about a month to 6 weeks apart in age that have been hanging out together. I know this girl and the other 10 we hatched would often stay back in the corner. Now that she is separated it seems all of the other 10 are out and about most of the time. I'm wondering if they were "protecting" her and now since they don't have to they are roaming? We were thinking maybe it was just the curled toes and tried to make her little "boots" like were suggested online. We took some tape and thin cardboard as suggested (our "boots" don't look near as nice as those I saw online) to reposition her toes. She got one off the first night. The biggest problem with the "boots" is they seem too slick on the bottom. So, we tried just some tape on both sides of her one foot to separate the toes. I don't think that gives the toes enough stability. She just doesn't seem to have the muscle to use her legs to stand on her own, but can certainly move them. I did read something about the vitamin deficiency. What would you recommend to try for that?


Thanks for your help! :)

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As far as dust baths, she and her 10 "siblings" didn't really dust bathe in their area. They were enough younger (a month to 6 weeks) that the others they were with and just felt more secure in their area. When you say your chicken finally walked after a "good bit", I'm assuming you mean within a few hours, not days? I'm hoping we an get this figured out too. Even though she is just a "mutt" hatched from our chickens...she is a sweet girl. She looks like a Turken with Barred Rock coloring (a few specks of red in her feathers too) and featherd feet! Cute little thing :)

 

Thanks for your input too! :)

post #6 of 10

She is too old for boots to work.  Her bones have already hardened.  If you didn't notice it as a chick, this is a new symptom.  This is the vitamin protocol that I would follow...

 

..25mls poly vi sol per day plus,

200 ius of Vitamin E twice daily...

 

some add a small piece of selenium to add in the absorption of the other vitamins.

 

If she doesn't show any progress in the next 2 weeks or, she goes downhill further, I would seriously consider Marek's.  Marek's does not have to show all the symptoms and sometimes, it doesn't show any.  If she gets worse, I would recommend having her euthanized and a necropsy performed.  Call your local government extension office to find a state lab where you can have it done.  Most state labs will do them for little to no fee.  You should have this info handy in case you need it.  Some have found all the answers they need online.  A necropsy is the only way to know for certain what happened and if you need to be concerned about the rest of your birds.

 

FYI...

 

NPIP does not cover all contagious diseases in chickens.  Marek's is one of those diseases that is not tested for during NPIP.

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post #7 of 10
Get the poly vi sol without iron.

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Read about Egyptian Fayoumis here: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/316739/egyptian-fayoumis-info and more here: http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/281062/fayoumi-bigawi-qarafa-and-old-egyptian 

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Thanks again for all of the information! I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner, but I blew out my knee Sunday night and have not been on the computer since. I will still only have limited access since I'm supposed to be in bed and don't have a laptop. As soon as I can get some of the poly vi sol, I will. We do have some "Merrick's Blue Ribbon Poultry Electrolyte Pack", "Advance Pro-Lyte Plus" and "Revitilyte". We can use one of those in the meantime.We have lots more supplements for other animals...such as Dyne and Nutri-Cal. 

 

Thanks again!!!

post #10 of 10
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Hello everyone!

 

Well, my pullet is doing much better. She is up and walking and her toes are in the correct position. It seems that her one leg is not quite "right". I'm wondering if it's dislocated? She doesn't appear to be in any pain. We have been giving her Merrick's Blue Ribbon Poultry Electrolyte Pack and chick starter. I'm not thinking it's Marek's anymore....whew! If anyone has any thoughts, please let me know. 

 

Thanks!! :)

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