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You will not get great quality birds from any hatchery. The birds will generally look like Welsummers, and will lay brown eggs, but will not be close to the Standard of Perfection.  If you are truly interested in breeding these lovely birds, please consider getting quality stock from a breeder.  you may need to hatch eggs instead of buying birds. 

 

Here is a thread that discusses the breed from the standpoint of knowledgable, experienced breeders.  We are so fortunate at BYC to be able to share in the thoughts and opinions of top breeders.  These are the folks that preserve breeds in their most perfect form.

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818263/csus-welsummer-sop

Home of the world's cutest dachshund, one crazy blue heeler, two cats,
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              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 

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Home of the world's cutest dachshund, one crazy blue heeler, two cats,
              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 

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post #36212 of 38036
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Originally Posted by Stegs View Post
 

i kinda have my heart set on welsummers, but i will look into this breed as i know nothing about them

 

I almost tempted to order a 6 welsummer hens and rooster, raise them and when they get to be about 6 weeks old sell of all my other chickens and raise strictly welsummers.....if there is a shortage of welsummers, i could almost hatch my own eggs and sell welsummer chicks. If welsummer is the only breed i have, and i start with great quality.....

 

Go for it!!  I wanted some too, got a pair from a local 'breeder' that were sub par...she's lousy layer of fertile, but porous and non developing eggs.

He's a great cockbird tho.

 

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Originally Posted by 1muttsfan View Post
 

You will not get great quality birds from any hatchery. The birds will generally look like Welsummers, and will lay brown eggs, but will not be close to the Standard of Perfection.  If you are truly interested in breeding these lovely birds, please consider getting quality stock from a breeder.  you may need to hatch eggs instead of buying birds. 

 

Here is a thread that discusses the breed from the standpoint of knowledgable, experienced breeders.  We are so fortunate at BYC to be able to share in the thoughts and opinions of top breeders.  These are the folks that preserve breeds in their most perfect form.

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818263/csus-welsummer-sop

That thread is pretty much dead....same person started a FB group and club, but it's pretty slow too.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/welsummerclubofnorthamerica/

 

@Opa in Michigan had some nice ones but sold them all due to other obligations...not sure if the recipient is instate and selling.

 

Hatchery birds are likely low quality...a crap shoot for egg color.....especially if you want SOP birds.

You can find them for sale in, but buyer beware.

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

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Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

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post #36213 of 38036
Yeah I got welsummers from tractor supply 2 years ago and was NOT impressed. Didn't lay any darker than my ISA Browns, very flighty, and so on. If you are serious about breeding get good stock to start with.

Mommy to 3, foster-human for HANDDS to the Rescue

 

Whittling the numbers down for winter.....down to around 45.  BLRW project on hold again.  HOPING to have F1 Olive eggers and blue and black sex-link eggs/chicks locally in the spring.

 

Incubating eggs in the Mitten State?  Come join us!

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Mommy to 3, foster-human for HANDDS to the Rescue

 

Whittling the numbers down for winter.....down to around 45.  BLRW project on hold again.  HOPING to have F1 Olive eggers and blue and black sex-link eggs/chicks locally in the spring.

 

Incubating eggs in the Mitten State?  Come join us!

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post #36214 of 38036
x2 of what gladahmae said - i got a hatchery wellie from the feed store last year & looked nothing like a wellie - he was a pretty bird tho
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My couple of Wellies from Cackle are pretty nice, actually.  If you want show quality birds, find a good breeder somehow.  Is there a national club?  SQ birds may be bred to be beautiful, but egg production may not be something the breeder cares about.  If you just want a flock,  Cackle birds look pretty good to me, and the egg color is fine.  Good luck!  Mary

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Originally Posted by Folly's place View Post
 

My couple of Wellies from Cackle are pretty nice, actually.  If you want show quality birds, find a good breeder somehow.  Is there a national club?  SQ birds may be bred to be beautiful, but egg production may not be something the breeder cares about.  If you just want a flock,  Cackle birds look pretty good to me, and the egg color is fine.  Good luck!  Mary

There is...link in my post above...but it's not too active and I don't think there's any breeders in MI.

Some are breeding bantams and other color variations....and, you are correct, not paying much attention to egg color.

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

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post #36217 of 38036
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Originally Posted by aart View Post

That thread is pretty much dead.

That thread has an enormous amount of valuable information on the breed and is well worth reading over.
Edited by 1muttsfan - 5/3/16 at 8:24am

Home of the world's cutest dachshund, one crazy blue heeler, two cats,
              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 

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Home of the world's cutest dachshund, one crazy blue heeler, two cats,
              one fat pony, and many (but not too many!) chickens

              Can anyone tell me, how many are too many chickens?

 

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post #36218 of 38036
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Originally Posted by 1muttsfan View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aart View Post

That thread is pretty much dead.

That thread has an enormous amount of valuable information on the breed and is well worth reading over.

I didn't say it didn't have good info.....just probably going to find a source for birds there.

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply

Great article on VENTILATION, one of THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of coop design.

Fantastic treatise to help decide how much SPACE your chickens need.

 

Chicken math is not just 'addition'...but also should include Division, Multiplication and especially Subtraction!!!

 

Quoting centrarchid:

"Make every effort to understand your chicken's biology and the environment that supports it."

Reply
post #36219 of 38036
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Originally Posted by gladahmae View Post

One of my ducks quacked this morning. Like....legitimate quack. So that means I have at least ONE female. Yay!

?  My drakes quack, the hens grunt...here's hoping for ya, lol

John "pop-pop" Anderson

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
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John "pop-pop" Anderson

Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.
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Well if that's the case John, then I think I'm still covered. 😉 hahahhahha!!

Mommy to 3, foster-human for HANDDS to the Rescue

 

Whittling the numbers down for winter.....down to around 45.  BLRW project on hold again.  HOPING to have F1 Olive eggers and blue and black sex-link eggs/chicks locally in the spring.

 

Incubating eggs in the Mitten State?  Come join us!

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Mommy to 3, foster-human for HANDDS to the Rescue

 

Whittling the numbers down for winter.....down to around 45.  BLRW project on hold again.  HOPING to have F1 Olive eggers and blue and black sex-link eggs/chicks locally in the spring.

 

Incubating eggs in the Mitten State?  Come join us!

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