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post #11 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

His is a Silver Birchen (Birchen). He may have some Partridge in him also that could be the reason for the Gold coloring in him.

 

Chris

Here we go again, lol, I don't see any Partridge in her at all, and birchen does have some gold coloring in them   wink.png

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and wisdom to know the difference.

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post #12 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:01pm
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Do you have a link to a "dogfish" chicken? 

Where are there place of origin?

 

Chris

 

post #13 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:08pm

 dogfish chicken!

post #14 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by ChickenExtreme View Post

Here we go again, lol, I don't see any Partridge in her at all, and birchen does have some gold coloring in them   wink.png

You dont see the Gold in the Hackles, Saddle Feathers and the Wing Bow?

There should be NO Gold in a Birchen at all. 

Also shouldn't have lacing in there chest either but that is besides the point.

 

If you like I could pull out the APA standard and re-look up the description they have for Birchin. wink.png

 

 

Chris


Edited by Chris09 - 8/10/12 at 1:14pm

 

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Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


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post #15 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

There should be NO Gold in a Birchen at all. 

Also shouldn't have lacing in there chest either but that is besides the point.

 

If you like I could pull out the APA standard and re-look up the description they have for Birchin. wink.png

 

 

Chris

I'm not talking apa, I'm not a showman, and yes birchen does have a gold coloring to the cockerel, Pull it up    clap.gif

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

post #16 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:31pm
Thread Starter 

The feathers I have been looking at on his shoulders are tinged yellowish gold, though they might come out white, Im not sure.  They are still half pin feathers, they look like hundreds of little paint brushes right now, but i can tell the centers are black and the edges are much lighter in the white to gold range.

1 Blue JG and 1 Black JG,1 Penciled Rock Rooster.  1 Cornish chick, 5 Sussex, 3 mix chicks, 3 australorp chicks, 1 blue australorp chick, and one wild kitty!  

 

10 meaties on the way, 2 red layers, 4 EE too!!!  Chicken Math strikes again! 

 

The Rooster may crow, but it is the Hen that delivers the goods! 

1 Blue JG and 1 Black JG,1 Penciled Rock Rooster.  1 Cornish chick, 5 Sussex, 3 mix chicks, 3 australorp chicks, 1 blue australorp chick, and one wild kitty!  

 

10 meaties on the way, 2 red layers, 4 EE too!!!  Chicken Math strikes again! 

 

The Rooster may crow, but it is the Hen that delivers the goods! 

post #17 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:34pm

no one likes the dogfish?

post #18 of 75
8/10/12 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by ChickenExtreme View Post

I'm not talking apa, I'm not a showman, and yes birchen does have a gold coloring to the cockerel, Pull it up    clap.gif

Not my bird Picture form http://bantams.the-kozaks.com/ModernGames/ModernGames-3.html

Birchen-1.JPG

 

Pictures below are from http://www.kippenencyclopedie.nl/php/index.php?title=Hoofdpagina

Hackle Feather --

 

Berken_Halsveer_Haan.jpg

 

Saddle Feather --

 

Berken_Zadelveer_Haan.jpg

 

Below infomation from http://ps.fass.org/content/33/3/472.abstract

 

Genetics of Birchen Plumage Pattern in the Fowl

  1. Elliot Kimball

 

 

BIRCHEN phenotype consists in fractionated pyle-zoned restriction, associated with black ground color and laced breast feathers in both sexes (American Standard of Perfection, 1953). It is found in the Birchen Game and Game Bantam as silver-on-black, and the same pattern appears in the Gray Japanese Bantam. Identity of patterning obtains in the Brown-red or Brown-breasted Game, except that silver is replaced by gold. Experimental evidence submitted below demonstrates Brown-red to be a gold variety of Birchen, and since multiplicity of breed names applied to the same basic pattern is cumbersome and confusing, the present report designates the variants as Silver Birchen (Birchen) and Golden Birchen (Brown-red), respectively.

Bateson and Punnett (1906) found Golden Birchen dominant to Black-breasted Red on a monofactorial autosomal basis. Illustrations of wild type striped Black-breasted Red, and non-striped black Golden Birchen chicks were published by Bateson (1910). Hagedoorn (1909) reported Black-breasted Red dominant to Golden Birchen, . . .

 

 

Chris


Edited by Chris09 - 8/10/12 at 2:01pm

 

NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

 

NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

post #19 of 75
8/10/12 at 3:38pm
Thread Starter 

Yep, thats what he looks like, only without the white on the head.  His neck is mostly black too with just streaks of silver/transparent feathers.

1 Blue JG and 1 Black JG,1 Penciled Rock Rooster.  1 Cornish chick, 5 Sussex, 3 mix chicks, 3 australorp chicks, 1 blue australorp chick, and one wild kitty!  

 

10 meaties on the way, 2 red layers, 4 EE too!!!  Chicken Math strikes again! 

 

The Rooster may crow, but it is the Hen that delivers the goods! 

1 Blue JG and 1 Black JG,1 Penciled Rock Rooster.  1 Cornish chick, 5 Sussex, 3 mix chicks, 3 australorp chicks, 1 blue australorp chick, and one wild kitty!  

 

10 meaties on the way, 2 red layers, 4 EE too!!!  Chicken Math strikes again! 

 

The Rooster may crow, but it is the Hen that delivers the goods! 

post #20 of 75
8/10/12 at 3:40pm

x2 on birchen color

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