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post #21 of 75
8/10/12 at 3:42pm

definitely a birchen 

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post #22 of 75
8/10/12 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by Reurra View Post

Yep, thats what he looks like, only without the white on the head.  His neck is mostly black too with just streaks of silver/transparent feathers.

Is he silver (white) or does he have gold (yellow) in him also? 

Like this rooster http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/336124/birchen-cochin or close to it.

 

If he has the gold in him then I would say he either has Partridge or Brown Red bred back in him also. 

 

Chris

 

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post #23 of 75
8/10/12 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

Not my bird Picture form http://bantams.the-kozaks.com/ModernGames/ModernGames-3.html

Birchen-1.JPG

 

Pictures below are from http://www.kippenencyclopedie.nl/php/index.php?title=Hoofdpagina

Hackle Feather --

 

Berken_Halsveer_Haan.jpg

 

Saddle Feather --

 

Berken_Zadelveer_Haan.jpg

 

Below infomation from http://ps.fass.org/content/33/3/472.abstract

 

Genetics of Birchen Plumage Pattern in the Fowl

  1. Elliot Kimball

 

 

BIRCHEN phenotype consists in fractionated pyle-zoned restriction, associated with black ground color and laced breast feathers in both sexes (American Standard of Perfection, 1953). It is found in the Birchen Game and Game Bantam as silver-on-black, and the same pattern appears in the Gray Japanese Bantam. Identity of patterning obtains in the Brown-red or Brown-breasted Game, except that silver is replaced by gold. Experimental evidence submitted below demonstrates Brown-red to be a gold variety of Birchen, and since multiplicity of breed names applied to the same basic pattern is cumbersome and confusing, the present report designates the variants as Silver Birchen (Birchen) and Golden Birchen (Brown-red), respectively.

Bateson and Punnett (1906) found Golden Birchen dominant to Black-breasted Red on a monofactorial autosomal basis. Illustrations of wild type striped Black-breasted Red, and non-striped black Golden Birchen chicks were published by Bateson (1910). Hagedoorn (1909) reported Black-breasted Red dominant to Golden Birchen, . . .

 

 

Chris

Thats Silver Birchen  lau.gif

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courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

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post #24 of 75
8/10/12 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by Reurra View Post

Yep, thats what he looks like, only without the white on the head.  His neck is mostly black too with just streaks of silver/transparent feathers.

He's Birchen color, not Silver Birchen like Chris09 is saying, lol

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courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

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and wisdom to know the difference.

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post #25 of 75
8/10/12 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by ChickenExtreme View Post

Thats Silver Birchen  lau.gif

I will assume that you either just started in poultry or don't know poultry colors/ and or genetics.

Either was so that you know,

(poultry 101)

Birchen and Silver Birchen are the same thing.

Birchen is Brown Red with the Gold replaced with Silver.

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_dsc_0011.jpg

Chris


Edited by Chris09 - 8/10/12 at 7:55pm

 

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George Washington

 

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Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

post #26 of 75
8/10/12 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by ChickenExtreme View Post

He's Birchen color, not Silver Birchen like Chris09 is saying, lol

Now this is funny. lau.gif

Birchen and Silver Birchen are the same thing.. wink.png

 

Chris

 

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Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

 

NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

post #27 of 75
8/10/12 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

Not my bird Picture form http://bantams.the-kozaks.com/ModernGames/ModernGames-3.html

Birchen-1.JPG

 

 

now this is a handsome modern (and i think they look funny due to the long legs but i would take him in a heart beat)

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post #28 of 75
8/10/12 at 9:49pm

as for the golden color you are talking about, is it just on part of the feather and on top? is it the whole area? did the feathers come in like that? is he out in the sun a lot? do you feed them corn any (like 2-3 times a week)? 

 

depending on your answer's he may just be sun bleached or the corn turned the white feathers yellowish as in that pic that cock looks to be sun bleached instead 

 

i do agree that he is a birchen cochin 

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post #29 of 75
8/10/12 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

I will assume that you either just started in poultry or don't know poultry colors/ and or genetics.

Either was so that you know,

(poultry 101)

Birchen and Silver Birchen are the same thing.

Birchen is Brown Red with the Gold replaced with Silver.

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_dsc_0011.jpg

Chris

 

 

Exactly GOLDEN COLOR , DUH   lau.gif

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

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to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

post #30 of 75
8/10/12 at 10:45pm
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

His is a Silver Birchen (Birchen). He may have some Partridge in him also that could be the reason for the Gold coloring in him.

 

Chris

Why do you even contradict yourself? 

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change; 
courage to change the things I can; 
and wisdom to know the difference.

In Jesus name Amen :)

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