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post #11 of 18
8/17/12 at 4:56pm

True.  I have a magazine around here somewhere that describes how to treat.  I'm going to head to the magazine rack and check it out.  I didn't mention the use of antibiotics as being contradictory since there were other problems involved.  Let me find that magazine!!

 

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If it's vent gleet, that is fungal and not treatable with antibiotics, if so. You'd need an anti-fungal of some type, I'd think, though this is not my area of expertise.
 

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post #12 of 18
8/17/12 at 5:12pm

Found it :)

 

Here is what Ron Kean has to say about vent gleet...he is an Extension Poultry Specialist at University of Wisconsin - Madison.

 

"If it is vent gleet, then a couple sprays of betadine should work.  You should be able to find this at a pharmacy or from one of the mail- order vet supply houses.  Vent gleet is basically a yeast infection. It likely can be transmitted to males that might be mating with the females.  It only seems to occur in an occasional bird, though, so I suspect it may be more of  a factor of some other stress that is involved."

 

-Backyard Pouthry, Volume 6, Number 2 April/May, 2011

 

He was answering a question from a woman who was told to spray hydrogen peroxide up the vent in order to cure the problem.  So, by this answer I would have to assume that you spray the betadine into the vent area. 

 

Hope this helps.  If this is vent gleet, the antibiotics will more than likely make it worse.  However, if she has another infection causing stress and making her susceptible to vent gleet then, she would need to be treated for both. 

 

If it were me, I would probably stop the antibiotics..since, she wasn't acting ill...and treat for gleet.  If that cures the problem then great.  If she is still ill, at that point, I would continue the antibiotics.

 

Good luck!

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post #13 of 18
8/21/12 at 1:19pm
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I am amazed how well she is doing! The antibiotics seem to have done the trick, she smells SO much better. Mom read your suggestions for Vent Gleet and decided it wasn't what she had. No doubt all your efforts to provide information will be helpful to many more in the future. Thank you so much for being here and offering so much valuable information and support!

 

Besides the antibiotics we have soaked her in sulfur & Epsom's salts and sprayed her vent with Vetericyn. We still have her in isolation because her belly is still purple and the vent is sort of open but she seems much better, just because the rotten smell is gone!

 

Still need to try and get some new pictures, busy around here but I will try to get some today!!

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post #14 of 18
8/21/12 at 10:32pm
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Pictures from this afternoon, after Mom pulled a scab like clump off of her vent. Her skin is not as purple, as far up her chest as it was in the beginning. She is feisty as ever! We are keeping her indoors, keeping her quiet. Mom gave her another antibiotic shot and sprayed her vent again with Vetericyn. Mom is convinces she was egg bound, because of the yoke like material around her vent the first day we noticed her but I think the funk on there now looks a bit like yoke and it could be the yeast like infection?

 

 

 

Such a brave girl!

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post #15 of 18
8/22/12 at 12:42am

Oh what a sweet little face she has, sounds like all the good info and your care is doing the trick yippiechickie.gif

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post #16 of 18
8/22/12 at 5:22am

Belive it or not i have successfuly treated vent gleet twice with monistat yeast infection treatment for humans.  I put a half of a supository in her at night when she went to roost. The outside white stuff smelled like something had died on her it was so bad.  I also had some ear yeast treatment from the Vet left over from my dog for her ears and that worked as well. Pretty much any antifungal will work if its vent gleet. 

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I looked at all the caged animals in the barn...the cast-offs of human society. I saw in their eyes love and hope, fear and dread, sadness, and betrayal. And I was angry."God," I said, "this is terrible! Why don't you do something?"God was silent for a moment, and then He spoke softly, "I have done something," he replied.  "I created you."

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post #17 of 18
8/22/12 at 2:17pm
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Belive it or not i have successfuly treated vent gleet twice with monistat yeast infection treatment for humans.  I put a half of a supository in her at night when she went to roost. The outside white stuff smelled like something had died on her it was so bad.  I also had some ear yeast treatment from the Vet left over from my dog for her ears and that worked as well. Pretty much any antifungal will work if its vent gleet. 

 


LOL. I have used the monistat on my toe fungus, worked like a charm. So gleet does smell like something dead and rotting! That's the first I recall hearing that it smelled like that, awesome, now I am really going to nag my mother to use an anti-fungal or the betadine and I will keep mixing up citric acid water for drinking and soaking, as suggested on Bird Health AU. It might have been the soaking that is helping her and not the antibiotics after all?!

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post #18 of 18
10/18/12 at 5:25pm
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Her is my girl, she is all better now and has decided that she should take over mothering all our chicks whose mothers decided they were old enough and went back to live with the rest of our free range flock. She was in a pen inside the chick house while she was healing. We gathered several broody hens that were refusing to stop being broody and gave them all standard sized eggs to hatch. When we put this gal back with the rest of the flock she moved herself back into the chick house and immediately started adopting chicks. She talks to them during the day and keeps them all close by as they free range in the chicken yard. If a chick wonders out of the yard and we chase it back in she becomes supermom and comes at us with wings spread. They never understand we are just trying to help, but she protects them like they were her own. There were seven mother hens, but two of them took their chicks to some empty doghouse coops in the main chicken yard. Now it is just her and the one black bantam Cochin hen watching after all the babies, way more then in this photo. These two hens are now co-parenting and they snuggle together in a corner and all the babies gather under and around them. She is quite the foster mom!

 

FYI: I am pretty sure, by the color of her face & comb and the color on her neck that her father was a Silkie cross rooster, Lance. He was named after Sir Lancelot because he was such a good protector of his ladies. He was that same copper color and was quite beautiful with a comb that had 3 rows of purplish-black spikes. Unfortunately he did pass away last winter.

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