GLuten free feed??????

yes please name the feed you use if possible....I am using an organic feed from ranchway feeds out of ft. collins, but it does have gluten....I reached out to the company and they do offer gluten free chicken feed, but only on special orders, which has a min. of a 1,000lbs.....so i kinda gave up on the gluten free chicken feed and only allow my daughter to feed them snacks and scrapes...as far as gluten transferring to the meat and or eggs, I find impossible since the gluten would of been digested by the chicken, broken down into its elements and processed, if gluten would be a problem, it would be for the chicken with celiac for the gluten would go undigested, trapped in the digestive tract. I use the 5-gallon enclosed feeder to keep the gluten in the feeder, my biggest concern is my daughters contact with the feed itself.

Here is the lable from the pheasant feed. It's from a Mill in South Dakota. But I would think you could check with your local feed mill.
I also found a company TOTAL FEED while in LV during the NRF. Looking into that for both my chickens & goats. You can find them in the web.

UtePassChickens said:

yes please name the feed you use if possible....I am using an organic feed from ranchway feeds out of ft. collins, but it does have gluten....I reached out to the company and they do offer gluten free chicken feed, but only on special orders, which has a min. of a 1,000lbs.....so i kinda gave up on the gluten free chicken feed and only allow my daughter to feed them snacks and scrapes...as far as gluten transferring to the meat and or eggs, I find impossible since the gluten would of been digested by the chicken, broken down into its elements and processed, if gluten would be a problem, it would be for the chicken with celiac for the gluten would go undigested, trapped in the digestive tract.  I use the 5-gallon enclosed feeder to keep the gluten in the feeder, my biggest concern is my daughters contact with the feed itself.

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I haven't seen double kindness around in a while but she special orders the gf feed bagged from RW and she'll split an order. I think she's E Denver.

Hi,
sorry for being gone for so long and not answering questions. We ran into some allergy problems having to visit
many doctors only to be sent to a psych doctor...sigh... Anyway, we finally found an excellent doctor who is well
versed in allergens and treating a person in the whole not just parts.

I have been reading through some past messages trying to get caught up. There is one I am very concerned about,
in fact I took it to my dealer this morning to double check for me. This Pheasant Grower 20% has grain products and
processed grain by products. This does not clearly say no wheat, rye, barley, or corn germ. If you take a look at this
website: http://agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/AnimalFeed/definitions.aspx you will find the "wide range" list and meanings.
I know the labels are very confusing. I am not in anyway complaining about the information listed, just want to make sure
you are all aware of what may be in the Pheasant grower Ingredients hidden list of words.

My current grain mix:
Is still weather dependent. In Missouri our weather has been very cold but we have not had a lot of snow. I make the girls
forage in the lower area of our lands where there are tons of leaves. That is weather permitting.
Snow days:
Boss-black oil sunflower seeds.
Oats- cleaned (horse race oats is what they are called. make sure you get the steamed ones without the rough tips on the end). I chose to use the oats because they do not bother us and because they are part of my goat feed mix.
Millet- or white purl millet. alfalfa- our alfalfa is 17% protein.
with this I mix a small amount of kelp on some days and minerals on other days (I have goat minerals because I have goats)
Rice- used when it is available.
Shredded beat pulp- our shredded beat pulp comes with molasses included. this is good for the chickens. not everyone agrees with using shredded beat pulp.

(IF you do not like using oats one of the alternatives here would be buckwheat which can be very expensive.)

Do i dry feed or cook? depends on the weather.
snow days: i toss some beef or pork bones into the pressure cooker and let them go until they are very very tender. along with the bones i put some spent vegetables in for a stock. The hens also get all the scraps from the kitchen. We eat paleo and now it is almost Paleo AIP. Which means we have vegetable, fruit, and meat scraps. all of this can be fed as scraps, or made into a stock for the birds. When the stock is cooled to warm I add the above feed mix and the chickens love-love-love their meals.

In the summer: my chickens just don't like to eat much that is handed to them. I have found keeping a mix of 75% oats and 25% sunflower seeds is all I need. That is in small amounts because they go weeks with just 3 pounds in the hanging feeder. Garden scraps are also plenty in the summer time.

I finally found a nearby seller with an excellent choice of horse alfalfa pellets and ground flax. I will be adding the flax to my mix next week. If you have problems with corn or soy in your animals diet I suggest looking into ground flax meal for horses. Flax is a nice nutritional gluten free grain. when it comes to alfalfa pellets and chickens go for the mini pellets unless you have a way of grinding them. Sometimes i pop them into the liquid stock before adding other grains which softens them so the chickens can eat them right away.

What about the bugs?: I have started a meal worm bin. It is small so far, I feed the chickens about 5-6 meal worms weekly as a treat and they go crazy.

What about Fodder?: Yes I did start a fodder system early last spring and it worked great using the horse oats, sunflowers, some alfalfa seeds, I even sprouted a ton of beans because they grow so fast. I loved the system. Due to my illness at the end of last year I wasn't able to set my system up. However, I do plan on setting it up about the middle of February. I'm going to feed some to chickens but mostly to condition my LaMancha dairy goats. They are both pregnant and it looks like we will have at least 2 kids from each one. This will add extra nutrition and healthy greens to my goats ruminant systems.

Sorry this turned out so long. I was glad to read through most of the posts I missed and hope to be able to keep up in the new year =)

Glad people are noticing the things that effect eggs. I honestly just thought I was allergic to eggs and, well, everything.

Turns out some pesticides can trigger a Celiac response, too. The pesticides don't seem to have as dramatic an effect on the eggs as strongly as gluten [for me] does, though.

Vitamin water's been essential for our flock since the change - hoping to find an affordable way to introduce that via food rather than supplements. The fodder systems sound pretty efficient.

potagergirl said:

Hi,
sorry for being gone for so long and not answering questions. We ran into some allergy problems having to visit
many doctors only to be sent to a psych doctor...sigh... Anyway, we finally found an excellent doctor who is well
versed in allergens and treating a person in the whole not just parts.

I have been reading through some past messages trying to get caught up. There is one I am very concerned about,
in fact I took it to my dealer this morning to double check for me. This Pheasant Grower 20% has grain products and
processed grain by products. This does not clearly say no wheat, rye, barley, or corn germ. If you take a look at this
website: http://agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/AnimalFeed/definitions.aspx you will find the "wide range" list and meanings.
I know the labels are very confusing. I am not in anyway complaining about the information listed, just want to make sure
you are all aware of what may be in the Pheasant grower Ingredients hidden list of words.

My current grain mix:
Is still weather dependent. In Missouri our weather has been very cold but we have not had a lot of snow. I make the girls
forage in the lower area of our lands where there are tons of leaves. That is weather permitting.
Snow days:
Boss-black oil sunflower seeds.
Oats- cleaned (horse race oats is what they are called. make sure you get the steamed ones without the rough tips on the end). I chose to use the oats because they do not bother us and because they are part of my goat feed mix.
Millet- or white purl millet. alfalfa- our alfalfa is 17% protein.
with this I mix a small amount of kelp on some days and minerals on other days (I have goat minerals because I have goats)
Rice- used when it is available.
Shredded beat pulp- our shredded beat pulp comes with molasses included. this is good for the chickens. not everyone agrees with using shredded beat pulp.

(IF you do not like using oats one of the alternatives here would be buckwheat which can be very expensive.)

Do i dry feed or cook? depends on the weather.
snow days: i toss some beef or pork bones into the pressure cooker and let them go until they are very very tender. along with the bones i put some spent vegetables in for a stock. The hens also get all the scraps from the kitchen. We eat paleo and now it is almost Paleo AIP. Which means we have vegetable, fruit, and meat scraps. all of this can be fed as scraps, or made into a stock for the birds. When the stock is cooled to warm I add the above feed mix and the chickens love-love-love their meals.

In the summer: my chickens just don't like to eat much that is handed to them. I have found keeping a mix of 75% oats and 25% sunflower seeds is all I need. That is in small amounts because they go weeks with just 3 pounds in the hanging feeder. Garden scraps are also plenty in the summer time.

I finally found a nearby seller with an excellent choice of horse alfalfa pellets and ground flax. I will be adding the flax to my mix next week. If you have problems with corn or soy in your animals diet I suggest looking into ground flax meal for horses. Flax is a nice nutritional gluten free grain. when it comes to alfalfa pellets and chickens go for the mini pellets unless you have a way of grinding them. Sometimes i pop them into the liquid stock before adding other grains which softens them so the chickens can eat them right away.

What about the bugs?: I have started a meal worm bin. It is small so far, I feed the chickens about 5-6 meal worms weekly as a treat and they go crazy.

What about Fodder?: Yes I did start a fodder system early last spring and it worked great using the horse oats, sunflowers, some alfalfa seeds, I even sprouted a ton of beans because they grow so fast. I loved the system. Due to my illness at the end of last year I wasn't able to set my system up. However, I do plan on setting it up about the middle of February. I'm going to feed some to chickens but mostly to condition my LaMancha dairy goats. They are both pregnant and it looks like we will have at least 2 kids from each one. This will add extra nutrition and healthy greens to my goats ruminant systems.

Sorry this turned out so long. I was glad to read through most of the posts I missed and hope to be able to keep up in the new year =)

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I have been trying to pressure cook bones until soft... after 4 times 15lbs for 30 min the turkey bones are not soft or the long bones of the heritage chicken... how long do you pressure cook them?

sodamancer said:

My child has celiac, to the point where eggs hurt her tummy. No she is not allergic to eggs. I cannot find a premixed gluten free chicken feed. My chickens are about 18weeks old. I need recipes PLEASE for a gluten free mix.

NO
wheat
rye
barley
tricitale
buckwheat
quinoa

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Did you find a good mix of foods that work well? I have celiac disease and am finding that handling their food is making me sick. I am on the hunt for a way to feed my chicks gluten free as well.