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Need help!! Can't get watery neon green and yellow poop to stop

post #1 of 54
9/3/12 at 4:14pm
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I am desperately seeking a direction!! I have a 3 1/2 year old SLW that is going through a heavy molt. Over the last 2 weeks she has lost weight even though she is eating and drinking fine. On Wednesday of this week the watery yellow and neon green poop started. She also had an enlarged squishy crop. So I started treating her for sour crop. She has been separated and has been on water with ACV and yogurt. I have done a lot of reading of different threads and I have had her vomit which really resulted in nothing. I have given her some olive oil one day and done an Epsom salt drench the next day. I finally got a poop sample to the vet on Friday and he said it had a good amount of bacteria in the sample and said to treat as if it was e-coli. Friday she was started on a 5 day treatment of Baytril. Today on her 4th day of Baytril she still has the watery green and yellow poop. Her crop is still squishy but is much smaller. She is still only on scrambled egg, yogurt and crumbles mash and AVC water. I just really thought by now she would have stopped the watery poop. This is going on a week. I feel I have tried everything with no changes! My next thought was to worm her. My girls get wormed every 6 months with Safeguard. Their last treatment was in June. I have some Ivomec pour on that I could use if anyone thinks I might have a worm issue. Please help I am at my wits end. I just know the continuous diarrhea is NOT a good thing! Thank you so much for any and all help!!

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post #2 of 54
9/3/12 at 5:37pm

Before you use a de wormer again PLEASE do it naturally.!!!! Use brown rice and garlic! Like Bacteria  and antibiotics they can become resistant.  The recipie is 1 1/2 cups water to 1 cup brown rice cooked 45 mins. In the microwave in a covered dish place a whole head of garlic  with about 1/4 cup of water. cook on high till the head is steamed. I do not know how much time it will take. I use a garlic cooker from amazon to steam mine. Feed some to her- 1/8 cup est- portion of rice to her  twice a day for at least 3 days.  Make sure she is drinking.... if not use   pedialyte- no flavor type-  given 1ml every hour, so she gets electrolytes. 

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post #3 of 54
9/3/12 at 5:47pm

Also, one of the problems you may be having with the neon green watery poop is liver/kidney failure. I don't mean to alarm you, but usually by this point they are going downhill fast. I'd suggest some poultry drench in her mouth a few times a day to try and help pull her through while you try and get the other issues solved as well.

 

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At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

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At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

"Member of the Derperella Club-- We're just all goin' round' the rooster, here!"
Good night sweet Trousers, The Derp Club will miss you.
Treasure the love you recieve above all. It will survive long after your gold and good health have vanished. Og Mandino
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post #4 of 54
9/3/12 at 5:49pm

Oh, and DO NOT WORM. She doesn't have worms. The vet would have found them in the fecal sample.

At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

"Member of the Derperella Club-- We're just all goin' round' the rooster, here!"
Good night sweet Trousers, The Derp Club will miss you.
Treasure the love you recieve above all. It will survive long after your gold and good health have vanished. Og Mandino
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At the very least, wipe the poop off your feet before getting in the car.

"Member of the Derperella Club-- We're just all goin' round' the rooster, here!"
Good night sweet Trousers, The Derp Club will miss you.
Treasure the love you recieve above all. It will survive long after your gold and good health have vanished. Og Mandino
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post #5 of 54
9/3/12 at 7:00pm
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Thank you for the information. I will try the poultry drench tomorrow. I did buy some poultry probotics and mixed that in her water and gave that to her by a syringe. I did read that about the liver failure and she is 3 1/2 yrs old so maybe that is a possibility. I am hoping not. Could her being stressed going through her molt have anything to do with all this? She is COVERED in new little feathers sprouting!

Silky ma - I have had chickens for 3 1/2 years and I would LOVE to do a natural remedy if I knew it worked. My girls are my pets, I don't raise them for eggs or anything. I have tried using pumpkin seeds and garlic in their water but I am not willing to take the risk. I will do your brown rice and garlic and give it a try. Thanks again for your response!!

Be like the bird who halting in his flight, on limb too slight, feels it give way beneath him,yet sings knowing that he hath wings!
Ruth 2:12 The Lord recompense thy work,and a full reward be given thee by the Lord God,under whose wings thou art come to trust.
Never thought I could be so obsessed with chickens! My daughter and I are blessed w/ 29 wonderful girls and boys! 4 BO's, 2 Black stars,...

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Be like the bird who halting in his flight, on limb too slight, feels it give way beneath him,yet sings knowing that he hath wings!
Ruth 2:12 The Lord recompense thy work,and a full reward be given thee by the Lord God,under whose wings thou art come to trust.
Never thought I could be so obsessed with chickens! My daughter and I are blessed w/ 29 wonderful girls and boys! 4 BO's, 2 Black stars,...

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post #6 of 54
9/4/12 at 6:27am

Listen to Novaman. She does not have worms.

 

I will hazard a very educated guess here. If you have a hatchery Wyandotte, she is probably laying internally. Her age coupled with her breed, especially hatchery stock, means that she has malfunctioned, exacerbated by the molt. I lost every single hatchery Wyandotte I ever had (plus most of my hatchery hens) to egg yolk peritonitis and/or internal laying. They start usually in the second year. The molt can be a catalyst as well. The green and yellow poop is a symptom, not the main issue. Her systems are slowly shutting down. You are treating symptoms of something that, if I am correct about this, unfortunately, you cannot fix. Crop shutdown and green watery poop are both symptomatic of systems that are ceasing to function.

 

How long since you are 100% positive that she has laid an egg? I'm betting it's been awhile. Whether egg related or not, she is dying and I'm sorry to tell you this. It's very advanced at this point. I've been there so many times myself over the years, I know the signs.

 

These threads may be helpful to you in the future--they won't save this hen, unfortunately.

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=362422

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=195347

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/498260/video-reba-squat-walks-update-rip-beautiful-reba/50#post_8068877

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/638993/speckledhens-experiences-on-egg-reproduction-production-necropsy


Edited by speckledhen - 9/4/12 at 6:34am

 

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post #7 of 54
9/4/12 at 6:59am

I did not know about the liver/ kidney failure. Yhanks NovaAman. I recently found a site and have not had the chance to read it all. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

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post #8 of 54
9/4/12 at 8:05am

There can be several things happening at once. I've seen that poop on hens dying from egg yolk peritonitis/internal laying as well as ovarian carcinoma, birds with impacted crops where food was not getting through, and right now, on my 6 year old rooster who is dying from heart and probably kidney failure. It is, as I said, a symptom of something wrong, not the problem, in and of itself.

 

~A dog on its owner's property is a pet; A dog on someone else's property is a predator~

 

 

Living the Good Life in the North Georgia Mountains~ Cynthia

 

 

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~A dog on its owner's property is a pet; A dog on someone else's property is a predator~

 

 

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post #9 of 54
9/4/12 at 11:35am
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Speckled Hen- Thank you so much for your reply. Sophie has not laid an egg in 1 1/2 yrs. That has always concerned me but I have watched her closely. She has always been extremely healthy. Like I said earlier these girls are my pets and I spend hours with them every day. I clean out their poop under their roosting bars every day so I can be keenly aware of any poop changes. I am very aware of what you are saying with the egg issues and I know it is a high chance that is what it could be. I just have one more thought I would like to run by you and see what you think.

In my poop pans, under my roosting bars, I have always had pine shavings. The Saturday before Sophie started having the runny poop I changed to sand in the pans so I could clean them out like a litter box. My husband seems to recall that when he emptied the bags they were greenish and looked like the sand bags were harboring some mold. He did not tell me this till yesterday. My girls spend their nights in a10x10 house that is completely closed up so no critters can get in. They have and air unit that keeps their coop around 78 degrees. If I didn't give them AC at night then they would be sleeping in a 100 degree coop. Arkansas temps are AWFUL! So my thought is that maybe being locked up with the moldy sand has had an effect on her. It was that next Wednesday that Sophie started the watery poop and squishy crop. Could it be that she has a fungal infection? The moldy sand and lots of wet humid weather from hurricane Isaac??? I have found that watery green poop and digestive issues can come from fungus. Just thought I would run that by you. Do you think it would be worth trying some oxine and maybe Nystatin? Also some antifungal foods like apple sauce. You seem very knowledgeable and I greatly appreciate your advice!!!

Be like the bird who halting in his flight, on limb too slight, feels it give way beneath him,yet sings knowing that he hath wings!
Ruth 2:12 The Lord recompense thy work,and a full reward be given thee by the Lord God,under whose wings thou art come to trust.
Never thought I could be so obsessed with chickens! My daughter and I are blessed w/ 29 wonderful girls and boys! 4 BO's, 2 Black stars,...

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Be like the bird who halting in his flight, on limb too slight, feels it give way beneath him,yet sings knowing that he hath wings!
Ruth 2:12 The Lord recompense thy work,and a full reward be given thee by the Lord God,under whose wings thou art come to trust.
Never thought I could be so obsessed with chickens! My daughter and I are blessed w/ 29 wonderful girls and boys! 4 BO's, 2 Black stars,...

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post #10 of 54
9/4/12 at 1:45pm

I'm agreeing with the vet on this one. Your hen is being overwhelmed by ecoli bacteria. All chickens have ecoli, it's when some type of stressor causes it to get out of control. What kind of stressor causes it? It could be anything.

You want to continue dosing her with baytril as directed by the vet, to help fight back the ecoli infection. Use a syringe without a needle to feed her a slurry of probios and poultry nutri drench combined (with the baytril as necessary.) The probios will help rebuild her immune system by promoting good bacteria to grow and help ward off the bad bacteria (ecoli.)  The nutri drench will provide vitamins and minerals to strengthen her. You might have to tube feed her the slurry if the syringe feeding isnt working. You'll have to do this 3-4 times a day. I've dealt with ecoli...typical ecoli infection... yellow/green diarrhea is common and was verified by the University of Georgia Vet School of Medicine. It's a tough and long treatment period and if caught early enough there's a chance your hen will pull through. The rooster I had at the time didnt make it.

Keep your hen quarantined, the feces will be loaded with ecoli bacteria and practice biosecurity. Good luck.


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