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sour crop chicken died and pooped blood?

post #1 of 12
9/24/12 at 7:08pm
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I had a silkie chicken that I found today sick. I realized it was sour crop. Her crop was large and squishy. I started to take care of it but she looked pretty bad off and she died not a little bit later. The thing is as she died she pooped a bloody liquid. Is this normal? I can't understand why this would have happened. Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

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post #2 of 12
9/24/12 at 7:11pm
She may have had coccidia ontop of her other condition. I'm sorry you lost her...
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post #3 of 12
9/24/12 at 7:58pm
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She didn't have blood in her poop at any other time though. Just right as she died. Would it have happened this suddenly without any symptoms or signs?

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post #4 of 12
9/24/12 at 8:02pm
I'm not sure, I only had a chicken poo blood when dieing after an injury, not sour crop...unless she injested something sharp......
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My Heart is Broken... I miss you my Sweet Sophie Puff Diva Chicken....
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post #5 of 12
9/24/12 at 8:03pm

Chances are she had sour/irritated crop for some time. Sour crop is caused by overgrowth of bacteria in a crop that isn't emptying well. The bacteria continue to grow throughout the length of the GI tract. I would contribute it to bacterial colitis as a complication of a more severe case of sour crop.

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post #6 of 12
9/24/12 at 8:30pm
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Is Coccidia something that I would not have noticed the symptoms until it was too late? I have heard about blood in the stools as a main symptom to help you know. I just never saw anything like that until right as she died. I had seen her the day before and there was nothing unusual about her. She had looked a little ragged but the roos and been bugging her and I had removed them and feathers were coming back in so she had that look about her. I have looked for symptoms of Coccida and can't really find anything definite besides the blood.

I feel nurse_turtle has a good point and sounds right but I just don't want to dismiss this if it could be something else. I have some benfenzadole (sp?) the kind that comes for horses that has been recommended for coccidia and worms. Should I go ahead and give this to the rest of my chickens?

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post #7 of 12
9/24/12 at 8:40pm

Too much, or unnecessary, use of antibiotics can needlessly stress the renal and hepatic systems. I choose not to treat the asymptomatic.

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post #8 of 12
9/25/12 at 3:59am
It is true that the over use of medications can cause troubles......the problem with chickens is they can be dead before you figure out what to treat them with and vets that will even see a chicken are few and far between not to mention the cost. So I treat by what I see. If she showed no ther symptoms before, then I'd pass on treatment of the others for now. Worming with safeguard will not hurt them, if they have not been wormed for awhile...l then I would as a preventative to other issues. But that is your choice...if all else is fine then no need.
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My Heart is Broken... I miss you my Sweet Sophie Puff Diva Chicken....
Living and working on a Zoo farm - 300 plus chickens, fancy pigeons, Sebbies geese, turkey, crested ducks, peafowl, ornamental pheasant and ducks, Black swans, Egyptian geese, African Crowned Cranes, Emu, fainting goats, mini zebu, mini horses,mini donkey, alpacas, llamas, horses, 5 Great Pyrenees and a cat.
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post #9 of 12
9/25/12 at 4:20am

I have read from experienced chicken keepers that chickens with cocci will not want to eat or drink, and fluff up and hunch over as if cold; also that not all strains of cocci cause bloody poop.  The treatment in chickens is usually Corid.  I don't see cocci as an indication for using fenbendazole, only certain worms.

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Judy
Happiness is when you can look at your chickens and smile....
Worry is interest paid on trouble before it comes due.

Flockwatching my little bunch of mutts, a favorite pastime.

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post #10 of 12
9/25/12 at 4:46am
Safeguard does not treat coccidia. It is a wormer. I was saying if she wanted to use it as a wormer, if she felt it nessasary , it would not hurt them. Sometimes a weakened state from parasites can lead to other problems.
My Heart is Broken... I miss you my Sweet Sophie Puff Diva Chicken....
Living and working on a Zoo farm - 300 plus chickens, fancy pigeons, Sebbies geese, turkey, crested ducks, peafowl, ornamental pheasant and ducks, Black swans, Egyptian geese, African Crowned Cranes, Emu, fainting goats, mini zebu, mini horses,mini donkey, alpacas, llamas, horses, 5 Great Pyrenees and a cat.
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My Heart is Broken... I miss you my Sweet Sophie Puff Diva Chicken....
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