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you guys are awesome!
Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection
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You've done a ton of research!
You and Walt and whoever else is familiar with the American-style Standard of Perfection will be able to hammer out exact wording -- I don't know enough to help here. I just wanted to give you all my vote of confidence.
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Normanack,
I guess I should also fess up and state I did not own a copy of SOP 30 days ago. First, I hunted the local libraries and had the 1993 version, then I bought one. So I'm excited in your confidence! We can do this! (Again it is mainly a style/format that can be learned).
A little follow up. First thank-you BabyMakes6 (hope you are feeling better) and Gary Dean for doing the review of female shape. I think Blackbirds13 planned to review when the lights were back on. Blackbirds13, everything OK after the storm (apologies for not asking sooner)? The language on the female is post 496 with reviews post 544 (ChicKat), 545 (mine), 581 (Babymakes6), and 584 (GaryDean26). Mine, plus five reviews feels sufficient, so can anyone else do this (need two more)? MnMPoultry, would you feel comfortable reviewing the clarity of the language via the photos? Who else, Blackbirds13? Any others? As you review the female think about the crests (some post discussing are 549, 585).
On the male color, Normanack (528) asked are chestnut and autosomal red the same thing? KPenley (530) thinks on the shoulders. Since this is important in the review of the male color (590?), good time to think and comment on this.
Also I have the color chart! So cool. My eggs are a range. They appear most like oac179 in full sunlight. In filtered light and here at my desk oac178 and oac151 match. I think overall it's an egg by lighting by background thing. Maybe we could place them all on white paper in ambient indoor light to decide. None of the eggs I am looking at are fresh today, so that will be fun to check out! OK, for those that want to discuss decide if we look at fresh laid (first color) or day old (holding color)? What light? What background?
Enjoy the weekend!
I guess I should also fess up and state I did not own a copy of SOP 30 days ago. First, I hunted the local libraries and had the 1993 version, then I bought one. So I'm excited in your confidence! We can do this! (Again it is mainly a style/format that can be learned).
A little follow up. First thank-you BabyMakes6 (hope you are feeling better) and Gary Dean for doing the review of female shape. I think Blackbirds13 planned to review when the lights were back on. Blackbirds13, everything OK after the storm (apologies for not asking sooner)? The language on the female is post 496 with reviews post 544 (ChicKat), 545 (mine), 581 (Babymakes6), and 584 (GaryDean26). Mine, plus five reviews feels sufficient, so can anyone else do this (need two more)? MnMPoultry, would you feel comfortable reviewing the clarity of the language via the photos? Who else, Blackbirds13? Any others? As you review the female think about the crests (some post discussing are 549, 585).
On the male color, Normanack (528) asked are chestnut and autosomal red the same thing? KPenley (530) thinks on the shoulders. Since this is important in the review of the male color (590?), good time to think and comment on this.
Also I have the color chart! So cool. My eggs are a range. They appear most like oac179 in full sunlight. In filtered light and here at my desk oac178 and oac151 match. I think overall it's an egg by lighting by background thing. Maybe we could place them all on white paper in ambient indoor light to decide. None of the eggs I am looking at are fresh today, so that will be fun to check out! OK, for those that want to discuss decide if we look at fresh laid (first color) or day old (holding color)? What light? What background?
Enjoy the weekend!
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Once you folks get this close in description I can review it and make suggestions on how to describe it to fit into the APA terminology.
A word of caution. Pictures found on the web of CL's may or may not be correct. There are a lot of incorrect pictures posted on web sites that have huge followings, so people assume that they are correct. They may be, but in many cases they are not correct.
You folks are doing an excellent job of hammering this out. Most of the time I am in the sad position of telling the people that want a new breed or variety that they need to start over because they bring it to me as a completed description without knowing what the format or terminology needs to be. I have been called a meanie and other things that I can't post when our committee rejects the proposed Standard. Great job!
Any of you with a APA Standard should read the first 39 pages. Most people don't do this and then wonder why they don't understand the rest of the book.
Walt
A word of caution. Pictures found on the web of CL's may or may not be correct. There are a lot of incorrect pictures posted on web sites that have huge followings, so people assume that they are correct. They may be, but in many cases they are not correct.
You folks are doing an excellent job of hammering this out. Most of the time I am in the sad position of telling the people that want a new breed or variety that they need to start over because they bring it to me as a completed description without knowing what the format or terminology needs to be. I have been called a meanie and other things that I can't post when our committee rejects the proposed Standard. Great job!
Any of you with a APA Standard should read the first 39 pages. Most people don't do this and then wonder why they don't understand the rest of the book.
Walt
I know I know...I keep hoping to be able to take some time out and look at my own flock for a better reference but 24 hours in a day just are not enough. I will try to get to the female type by sunday evening. So much to do.
Oh got the chart. I think I'm going to base my colors on how they look on a nice sunny day but so far I have a range from oac81, 123 and 151.
Can't wait to get my color chart!
I am still not feeling well-I don't feel really BAD, I just don't feel GOOD.
I am still not feeling well-I don't feel really BAD, I just don't feel GOOD.
I keep every first pullet egg....hollow (blow with gizmo) it out, and let it dry.
Here's a photo of Robin's first egg.....
I'm saying it is a bit lighter than oac179 -- and I would like to see more stauration in clb eggs. Y'know you can't go by the right side because that is reflecting all the light...and y'can't go by the left side because that is in shadow. It's impossible to get an exact photo, good match etc. -- but I'm saying lighter than oac179.... as a benchmark.
It is fascinating the range of colors we all have. (which I think is a good thing. I like to be able to tell each chicken's egg -by looks. )
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It's OK, 24-hours is plenty of busy, no point in being a zombie.I know I know...I keep hoping to be able to take some time out and look at my own flock for a better reference but 24 hours in a day just are not enough. I will try to get to the female type by sunday evening. So much to do.,
Feel better soon. Take it easy/ easier.Can't wait to get my color chart!
I am still not feeling well-I don't feel really BAD, I just don't feel GOOD.
Good ideaI keep every first pullet egg....hollow (blow with gizmo) it out, and let it dry.
Here's a photo of Robin's first egg.....
I'm saying it is a bit lighter than oac179 -- and I would like to see more stauration in clb eggs. Y'know you can't go by the right side because that is reflecting all the light...and y'can't go by the left side because that is in shadow. It's impossible to get an exact photo, good match etc. -- but I'm saying lighter than oac179.... as a benchmark.
It is fascinating the range of colors we all have. (which I think is a good thing. I like to be able to tell each chicken's egg -by looks. )
Here is a link -- targeted specifically at getting a club started.
Please hop on over there and weigh in on what you think we need to do specifically to establish a club. Thanks.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/720859/cream-legbar-club-wwit
whoops, nearly left off the link. I hate when I do that.
Please hop on over there and weigh in on what you think we need to do specifically to establish a club. Thanks.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/720859/cream-legbar-club-wwit
whoops, nearly left off the link. I hate when I do that.
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