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Bantam versions of dual-purpose/layer breeds would be nice, or maybe a small standard laying breed. All the bantams I've seen have been cochins, silkies, or OEGB (we picked up a couple!), and I'd like a useful kind of little chicken (if those exist!). BF wants also a "cool looking" and preferably blue but not weird (silkies, frizzles, turkens :rolleyes:) bird. Kinda specific but also pretty vague, but we're still pretty new to chickens and doing research.

Hey there! 

 

I am going to be hatching some U of A blues(smaller standard breed) crossed to Leghorn/Ameraucana project birds.  I may have more blues than I plan to keep because of how many are developing right now. They'd be straight run though so mix of boys and girls.  They will all be blue egg layers.

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Hey there! 

 

I am going to be hatching some U of A blues(smaller standard breed) crossed to Leghorn/Ameraucana project birds.  I may have more blues than I plan to keep because of how many are developing right now. They'd be straight run though so mix of boys and girls.  They will all be blue egg layers.

 

You're the devil I say!  I so wish I could have more!  :)

Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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post #35443 of 39237
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Hiya, are there any (non-feather footed) general breeders in Western Washington? Most places I've found selling birds have been the feed stores (I assume they are from hatcheries?). I've found a few juvenile birds for sale here and there on craigslist, but haven't been able to find actual breeder websites or anything like that. I remember seeing quite a few varieties at the State Fair last year, but maybe they were mail orders? Just trying to get an idea of what local birds are out there.

 

Hello and Welcome to the group. 
There are a lot of good breeders in W. Washington.  You might want to attend the poultry show in Chehalis in June, at the Fairgrounds.  It's being put on by the Washington Feather Fanciers club.  You'll be able to see what's popular in our area and meet the breeders.  There are usually hatching eggs and chicks available for sale, if you get there early before they're all sold. 

If you're looking for specific breeds, ask and we can also point you in the right direction.  And, yes, you're right in your observation that many people selling their own birds are hatchery lines. 


ETA:  I saw your last post (I'm behind on my reading) and see you're interested in Bantams. Are you looking for thrifty-ness or just wanting something small?  The idea of a dual purpose Bantam at cross purposes to me, but whatever floats your boat.  :-)

Check out Erhard in Black Diamond.  Super nice guy.  I can give you a phone number if you PM me.
But DO NOT go to his webpage right now.  I was going to post the web address but it's been hacked.   Very naughty adult pics instead of gorgeous chickens. 
:barnie


 


Edited by CarolynF - 4/20/16 at 1:04pm

Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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post #35444 of 39237
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You're the devil I say!  I so wish I could have more!  :)

:D.  It is pretty hard to say no isn't it?

 

 

 

I currently have 35 of 38 developing, 3 were infertile (all from the same hen interestingly enough).  The more difficult thing with hatching is figuring out which birds I am going to rehome to make room for the next generation. 

 

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Hi. We just moved here from CA late last year and have been staying with friends while we go through the home loan process. Unfortunately it has taken too long and they're asking us to be out in a month. It's going to be impossible for me to find somewhere that will take us with our cats and dog, let alone 3 little hens. I have 1 sultan, 1 bcw polish, and 1 silkie. I just bought them the cutest little coop too. I'm reaching out to my fellow chicken lovers in hope that someone can take them in while we continue this home loan process. My daughter and I (she's 6) are very very attached. If possible we would like to visit them sometimes. I can provide their food and $20 a month, which is negotiable. (we're very broke atm with this house process). We're looking to move into yelm/lacey but can travel to surrounding areas. If there is somewhere else I can post this please let me know.

P.S. they just started laying


I don't know why people are so harsh about renting to people with animals. Goodness, people with animals are way more awesomer than people who don't want animals!! 😊😇. We have renters right now with an elderly golden retriever. Just based on the size of their dog no one would rent to them! Their loss...we have excellent tenants that have never paid late on rent and take excellent care of our home.

Wish you were closer...I would've been glad to help!

"When raising chickens you must think like a chicken...NOT like a human!"

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"When raising chickens you must think like a chicken...NOT like a human!"

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies-diseases-injuries-before-they-happen 

 

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Ooooh too late I went to his website. :ep  I'm glad you said that because I thought it was a problem on my end! No problem on my phone viewing it, oddly. A Bantam Australorp sounds pretty amazing.

 

June would be the perfect time as that's when our current babies will be well into the coop (if we ever finish it...) and we'll be vacationed enough from messy 'brooder in living room' shenanigans to think having more chicks is a good idea.

 

I think bantams are adorable and sized a bit better for suburban living. Maybe also a little bit scared of the larger standard breeds (oh man, we saw a this enormous Wyandotte on a farm that seemed like a feathered T-rex), or at least the size of their poops. But I would like at least semi-regular egg-laying because I love eggs and as bribes to keep our neighbors happy. So I was thinking of useful but still cute bantams/smaller breeds! Probably not for eating unless there's a particularly mean one. 

 

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Hey there! 

 

I am going to be hatching some U of A blues(smaller standard breed) crossed to Leghorn/Ameraucana project birds.  I may have more blues than I plan to keep because of how many are developing right now. They'd be straight run though so mix of boys and girls.  They will all be blue egg layers.

 

Your birds are gorgeous! I'm a newbie and haven't heard of that breed before. Is it University of...? I love different colored eggs. :) 

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Ooooh too late I went to his website. :ep  I'm glad you said that because I thought it was a problem on my end! No problem on my phone viewing it, oddly. A Bantam Australorp sounds pretty amazing.

 

June would be the perfect time as that's when our current babies will be well into the coop (if we ever finish it...) and we'll be vacationed enough from messy 'brooder in living room' shenanigans to think having more chicks is a good idea.

 

I think bantams are adorable and sized a bit better for suburban living. Maybe also a little bit scared of the larger standard breeds (oh man, we saw a this enormous Wyandotte on a farm that seemed like a feathered T-rex), or at least the size of their poops. But I would like at least semi-regular egg-laying because I love eggs and as bribes to keep our neighbors happy. So I was thinking of useful but still cute bantams/smaller breeds! Probably not for eating unless there's a particularly mean one. 

 

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Originally Posted by Manningjw View Post
 

Hey there! 

 

I am going to be hatching some U of A blues(smaller standard breed) crossed to Leghorn/Ameraucana project birds.  I may have more blues than I plan to keep because of how many are developing right now. They'd be straight run though so mix of boys and girls.  They will all be blue egg layers.

 

Your birds are gorgeous! I'm a newbie and haven't heard of that breed before. Is it University of...? I love different colored eggs. :) 


There are a few breeds that tend to be smaller, I would say Ameraucana and EEs and especially Swedish Flower Hen which lays a big egg but isn't a big bird.  Barnevelders would be very nice for an urban setting, very calm and generally quiet with huge eggs.  They are certainly smaller than an Orpingtons or Wyandottes of the same quality.  Yep, you just have to go to the show in June, no doubt about it! :-) 

@Manningjw I'm thinking yours are on the smaller side, too.  Is that true, compared to Wyandottes?  

Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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Why I Love My Chickens by CarolynF
     I love my chickens because they're pretty, they're funny, they give my family eggs and fertilizer, they eat from my
     hand, they eat my leftovers when I don't like what we had for dinner, and my mommy thinks they're fun, too. 
     My mommy is 96 so she knows what she's talking about!

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I haven't posted here in a long time!   I am in NE Seattle and I'm looking for two new pullets or young layers.  I want at least one of them to be a red sexlink.   I've lost two red sexlinks to raccoons (at different times) and I miss them.   I'm open to the idea of two RSLs, or one of another breed or cross. I would like both to be from the same flock though.   An olive egger would be nice, or bright blue layer. 

 

They will be added to my existing flock of 9:  4 year old white leghorn, her two EE daughters, 2 years old; and 6 hens that were hatched last summer (RIR, 3 EEs, bielefelder, white plymouth rock)

 

I personally don't want to travel too far from NE Seattle to buy these.  Carolyn Farmer has offered to help transport from the Bremerton area on the 30th if anyone has something in that area.  

 

Thanks!

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The more research I do on my Quechua rooster, the more confused I get! I think he might be most closely related to the Australian Araucana (hopefully I have at least learned to spell that right) that recognizes the tuftless and tailed version only of the Araucana breed, however they may also have small slicked back crests like the British tailed Araucanas. I have seen pictures of both tailed and rumpless versions of the Quechua so it may be more towards the multi-possibility genetics of the Araucana (the result of lethal genes causing them to not breed true) than the Ameraucana, which breeds true.

I thought that the true Ameraucanas only lay blue eggs and the true Araucanas only lay green eggs with the true Easter Eggers (with beards, muffs, pea combs, and tails) laying both colors plus the pink and purple eggs (not rose colored beige eggs) but it seems the Araucanas only lay blue eggs, not green, so I was mistaken. The Quechua is supposed to lay only blue eggs (hard to know having a rooster and no hens) so I want to retain some green egg laying qualities without losing the green to beige eggs with too much crossbreeding.

It seems the Araucana is actually a mix of multiple South American breeds and that is why it does not breed true with regards to tufts and rumps. It is like breeding Sizzle to Sizzle and getting multiple outcomes. I like tails, not tufts, so I am more impressed with the Ameraucana breed except that I like mixed feather color and mixed egg color. I want more of an Easter Egger Ameraucana than a pure Ameraucana so I get green egg layers without getting into the ugly shades of green that result from too much brown egg genetics in the mix.

My old time Easter Egger chickens (that the hatcheries first called Araucanas but now seem to call Ameraucanas) had muffs that covered their ears but not tufts sticking out of their ears. They had full beards, which also eliminated the wattles. They had slate legs with a characteristic green hue. I bred my stock for many years with high hatch rates (no lethal genes) and an undocumented breed "standard" that was "true" except for feather color and egg color, which is why they are now called Easter Eggers. The problem is that so many people are creating their own mutt Easter Eggers in order to experiment with egg color and there is no way to guarantee egg color in a chick.

The only way I can get back to what I want is to try to eliminate too many "improvements" in the hatchery Ameraucanas so I can get back to the hatchery "improved" Araucanas. I am hoping that putting a tailed and non-tufted Quechua over hatchery Ameraucanas will be the right recipe but I will need them to breed true and the multiple potential outcomes in the various Araucanas (North American vs Australian vs British standards) sort of makes that impossible. I don't even know how you can register a breed with so many phenotypes out of the same genotypes. No wonder these breeds are surrounded in so much controversy. It will take raising up alot of hens before I know if my project is a success and I am still working on acquiring parent stock without introducing health risks.

I do not understand complex genetics well enough to consider myself a true breeder. I like what I like and I use that to make more of what I like without worrying about things going too wrong genetically. Show judges like what they like too so show quality is somewhat subjective and tends to be a moving target. I guess as long as I like my chickens it is worth hatching more and keeping my favorites without getting too hung up on the standards of perfection but I am probably too much of a perfectionist to not consider quality over quantity.

The hardest thing I would face if I had to give up my chickens one day is that I would never find suitable replacements. I keep thinking that chickens are too much hassle for the eggs but I enjoy the chickens more than I enjoy their eggs. I would love to get back to a self-sufficient lifestyle one day but my more immediate goal is being able to walk again after my surgery. I am spending too much time contemplating my chickens while being immobilized (and a bit loopy on pain meds).
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I don't know why people are so harsh about renting to people with animals. Goodness, people with animals are way more awesomer than people who don't want animals!! 😊😇. We have renters right now with an elderly golden retriever. Just based on the size of their dog no one would rent to them! Their loss...we have excellent tenants that have never paid late on rent and take excellent care of our home.

Wish you were closer...I would've been glad to help!

Right? We've always been good tenants and have an excellent credit score but seems like pets always cause landlords to turn us away. When we moved out of our last house in CA we even found someone else to move in right after us so our landlord wouldn't lose money. Just don't understand... and then most places that do accept pets want like $300 per pet. No way would my pets ever cause even a fraction of that. I get that there are a lot of irresponsible pet owners and they make the good ones look bad and suffer for it. =[

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