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Utility Kings or Texan pioneer for squabbing?

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I have Utility kings and some that are homer x utility king mix. I also have pure utility kings and comparing the pures and the mix i would say the mix ones are more prolific producer but the downside of them is that they will sometimes throw in smaller size squabs. Not very often but lets say 2 out of 6 clutches. These smaller size squab are just a little bigger than normal homer squab. As the pure utility will consistently produce same size babies, but are a little less productive but are still prolific. And both will produce spring through winter but slow down during the colder season. I don't have Texans but i did do some research and they are very neat looking and their sex-link trait is very useful for some who wants easily sex them to keep for future breeding purpose. And it also mention Texans are a mixed breed consisting of utility and some other breeds develop for their squabbing ability and sex-link traits. Not saying utility kings aren't mix breed either(correct me if i'm wrong for both breeds). I also forgot to mention Swiss mondaine, that were once use as squab producers but have been more modify for exhibition purpose. so which breed would you choose as squab producer(for home purpose of course)?

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  Iwould like to sorry.....on EE-list - mondain(number 0006) have always been French(never Swiss).Kestrel - Poland

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-Kestral123, what kind of kings are those or are they mix king and something else? I check your page of the pictures and they seem to be larger and have a different shape and their breast also look like it's bigger. Here in America we have 2 types the show type and the utility use for eating. Yours look like mondaine and carneau pigeon mix on your page.

 

exhibition/ show type.

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utility type

 

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It is difficultto say, what breed it is.In my opinion on top photo a pair  kings is rather according to standard(Amerikan). In Europe are 2 standards. Old (Amerikan), and German.German differ from American shorter tail and tail has higher pozition. On pictures German standard is similar to german modena, so much that is difficult to distinct them. In reality  king is of course much bigger.In Poland is aproved American standard, but is fast tendency to breeding new German standards.kestrel

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Sorry for the confusion the 2 photos are of the 2 different type of king pigeon we have here in  America. The first picture with the pair are the show type, so aren't very good squabbing and the second picture are the utility ones used for eating and are very prolific. I wanted to know what are yours that you are holding to in your display picture are and the ones on your link in your profile page. Because yours look bigger in the chest area.

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TEXANS  ARE BIGGER  THAN  U.KINGS  THEY DO EXCEL IN PRODUCETION IF YOU  FIND A BREEDER THAT KEEPS  RECORDS. AND IS HONEST ABOUT IT . THE REAL SELLING PONIT TO HAVEING THEM  IS THE ABLELITY TO KNOW SEXS  AT EARLY AGE . A CROSS  WILL GIVE YOU  HYBRID VIRGOR  BUT LESS CONSENIT  SIZE.  THERE ARE SEVERAL  DIFFERENT  TYPE MONDAINS  FRENCH  SWISS  JEWELL  AND OTHERS . THE LARGEST SQUAB FARM THAT I KNOW OF  WAS THE  PALMETTO SQUAB  FARM. THEY WERE WELL KNOW FOR  THERE WHITE  CARNEAU. GANIT HOMERS  ARE  ALSO GOOD SQUABERS

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