A Bielefelder Thread !

[kris86AR]

Needing some experience.... After i bring my eggs in from coop, some of them develop these spots on them with age.... Non refrigerated. Will post picture. They look perfect wheb i bring them in

 

[kris86AR]

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[DesertChic]

Too cute! I love those puffy cheeks!

 

[DesertChic]

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It's hard to be certain, but the shell on the one on the right looks like it might be a bit thin and porous. Maybe you can try increasing their calcium to see if it goes away.

 

[Sylvester017]

Cutie! In the U.K. the Araucanas (it's what they call their version of our Ameraucanas) have puffy cheeks AND crests in their birds.

 

[Sylvester017]

Needing some experience.... After i bring my eggs in from coop, some of them develop these spots on them with age.... Non refrigerated. Will post picture. They look perfect wheb i bring them in

Sorry for poor quality. Cheap phone

It's hard to be certain, but the shell on the one on the right looks like it might be a bit thin and porous. Maybe you can try increasing their calcium to see if it goes away.

My Blue Wheaten Ameraucana lays soft pastel blue eggs when I collect them but when I bring in the new egg and set it next to her prior layed egg (not refrigerated) the older egg looks green -- as if a browning effect is turning the blue to a stone or green hue. I attributed it to exposure to the air for a couple days but it sure doesn't work to say how your hen lays blue eggs and then they turn dirty-ish looking in a couple days. I've never done it before but wonder if putting the eggs immediately into the fridge might preserve the blue color better? We have oyster shell in two big feeders in the yard besides a feeder hooked inside their coop besides the oyster shell in their organic feed -- I don't think our girls are lacking for calcium intake. This might be an issue better answered on a different thread?

 

[jbkirk]

Cutie! In the U.K. the Araucanas (it's what they call their version of our Ameraucanas) have puffy cheeks AND crests in their birds.

Really??? I thought that Ameraucanas, Americanas, and EEs are all mutts, while Araucanas are a actual breed!?!

 

[Saris]

Looking good !

Thanks!

Really??? I thought that Ameraucanas, Americanas, and EEs are all mutts, while Araucanas are a actual breed!?!

Ameraucanas and Aruacanas are both pure breeds. They have APA approved standards here in the US but in the UK and I think Australia the standards are different so the birds look different but go by the same name.

Amer - i - canas are usually just mislabeld Easter Eggers. Which have no breed standards.

 

[DesertChic]

Really??? I thought that Ameraucanas, Americanas, and EEs are all mutts, while Araucanas are a actual breed!?!

LOL! Ah yes.....the age old breed vs mutt discussion. For me this is akin to, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

I'm by no means an expert, but it's my understanding that the Araucanas are a breed, and the Ameraucanas are a breed that were created by cross-breeding an Araucanas from Chile with some other breed. From Wikipedia:

"
The Ameraucana is an American breed of domestic chicken developed in the United States in the 1970s. It derives from Araucanachickens brought from Chile and was bred to retain the blue-egg gene but eliminate the lethal alleles of the parent breed.[2][6] The breed has both large fowl and bantam varieties.
History[edit]

The Ameraucana was developed in the United States in the 1970s from Araucana chickens brought from Chile.[6] It was bred to retain the unusual blue-egg gene of the Araucana, but eliminate the tufted and rumpless lethal alleles of the parent breed.[2] It was added to the Standard of Perfection of the American Poultry Association in 1984.[7] The name derives from "America" and "Araucana".[2]
The Ameraucana is recognized in the United States as a separate breed from the Araucana. In some other countries, including Australia and the UK, both the tailed and rumpless variants of the Araucana are considered a single breed.[6]

Meanwhile, the EEs are a hybrid mix of Ameraucanas with some other breed, and the term "Americanas" either stems from ignorance of what is actually an EE, or not knowing how to spell "Ameraucanas", or an attempt to actually pass off an EE for a pure Ameraucana without actually using the proper term.....Who knows for sure?

All of that said, all of our current breeds of chicken have the same origins...the Jungle Fowl. The determination of "breed" vs "hybrid" is a matter of whether a new chicken genetic mix is recognized by one or more authority....or whether someone has simply done a effective job of marketing their creation as a unique breed that simply hasn't been recognized "yet". When I started into poultry keeping I read every book I could get my hands on, most of which were written in the early 1900s. This discussion of breed vs hybrid has been prolific for over a hundred years, and I suspect it will never end.

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: Yes DesertChic, the only thing I would add is that EE's came first. Weren't all breeds mutts to begin with?