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Hello, I am new to backyard chicken-ing and am curious about the laws in Lexington SC pertaining to my endeavor. Also looking for like minded locals to share.

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Originally Posted by Swann 

Hello, I am new to backyard chicken-ing and am curious about the laws in Lexington SC pertaining to my endeavor. Also looking for like minded locals to share.


Swann,

Welcome to the forum! welcome-byc

Be sure to introduce yourself in "New Members Area". Glad to have you here.

You can start a new thread if there isn't one already for SC and it should be more personalized that way for your needs.

Good luck and WELCOME! thumbsup

- Tommy

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post #83 of 109

Do you know if there are generally any restrictions to having a few backyard chickens in most towns. I am in a medium-size suburb north of the Golden Gate  Bridge. I want to get started and a friend has a few hens to give me. cmw.

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Hello.  I was just reading throught this entire thread and am happy to see so many people standing up for our rights to "farm".  My wife and I have been dealing w/ what I like to refer as "educating the township and public" on sustainable living, chickens, etc.  We live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and fortunately here, we have the Michigan Right to Farm Act.  It states clear as day that the MRTFA supercedes any local ordinance that goes against what it says, but one must be commercial in nature.  We have had 4 hearings so far (the last Jan. 7, 2010) and they had a new board member who is an attorney.  He brought up the MRTFA and suggested that he didn't believe the township could really do anything about our farm as it appears we are protected by this State Law.  We have around 100 chickens and 5 sheep on 6.5 acres, zoned Lake Residential.  So, I would suggest to some of you to check your state's right to farm law if there is one.  I have been doing extensive research and talking with many representatives from the Michigan Department of Agriculture, michigan farmers who are familiar w/ the RTFA as well as some attorneys.  Do your homework and educate yourselves as much as possible on the local ordinances as well as State Laws and present your findings in a kind way.  Our case here is hopefully going to help change outdated, ridiculous zoning "laws".  I have intentions of playing a key role in this as I have offered to sit on a committee to help re-write the zoning to allow backyard chickens and make it acceptable for the entire community.  We all have to work WITH the opposing side, not against them.  Educate, don't battle.  It will all be worth your time and effort!!!  Happy farming!!!

Educate yourself so that you can educate others.  Knowledge is power!
Educate yourself so that you can educate others.  Knowledge is power!
post #85 of 109
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Originally Posted by chickenmamawanabe 

Do you know if there are generally any restrictions to having a few backyard chickens in most towns. I am in a medium-size suburb north of the Golden Gate  Bridge. I want to get started and a friend has a few hens to give me. cmw.


Every place is different.  CHeck your local zoning code and ordinances.

Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
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Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
Support your local poultry clubs, breed clubs, ABA & APA!

post #86 of 109
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Originally Posted by Nifty-Chicken 

We've designed this section for anyone that raises chickens, but especially those that want to but are restricted by local laws and ordinances.

If you have any experience or knowledge or need help with any of the following, create a new topic in this section:

  Know what your local laws are
  Experience with changing local laws
  Know of links to websites or news articles that discuss local chicken laws and ordinances

Also, if you stumble upon topics here at BYC that are in other sections that should be here, please report them so a Staff member can move them to here.

Cheers!


are chickens considered livestock????

post #87 of 109

Chickens would be considered "Poultry"
Livestock falls under the "featherless" category : )

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post #88 of 109
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Chickens would be considered "Poultry"
Livestock falls under the "featherless" category : )

- Tommy


Not necessarily--you need to check your city, county and state ordinance definitions.  In some places they are listed and included as livestock; in others they are listed and considered separately.

Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
Support your local poultry clubs, breed clubs, ABA & APA!

Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
Support your local poultry clubs, breed clubs, ABA & APA!

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Originally Posted by Sonoran Silkies 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyVT05 

Chickens would be considered "Poultry"
Livestock falls under the "featherless" category : )

- Tommy


Not necessarily--you need to check your city, county and state ordinance definitions.  In some places they are listed and included as livestock; in others they are listed and considered separately.


Well,

Even if its added together as "livestock", its more correctly listed if its a subcategory of livestock but not necessarily "livestock" itself...but yes, you are correct, checking under both is best, can't go wrong with double-checking : ) thumbsup

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Here are the relevant codes for the Village of Freeport.   I live in Freeport, which is within several hierarchies of government:   State: New York;  County: Nassau; Town: Hempstead; Incorporated Village: Freeport.
It's just about a 45 minute drive east of Manhattan, located on the land mass called Long Island, at the very southern tip of New York State.  The Freeport Village Code says:

CHAPTER 78 ANIMALS AND FOWL
[HISTORY: Adopted by the Board of Trustees of the Village of Freeport 5-9-1966 as Ch. 4 of the 1966 Code. Amendments noted where applicable.]

§ 78-9 Poultry or fowl restricted.
[Added 8-28-1967; amended 4-17-1978 by L.L. No. 9-1978]
A. It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, corporation or other entity within the Village limits to keep, harbor or maintain any live poultry or fowl, including but not limited to chickens, ducks and geese, except that not more than two poultry or fowl may be kept as household pets.
B. Notwithstanding the provisions of Subsection A hereof, it shall be unlawful for any person within the Village limits to keep, harbor or maintain any live rooster.


So each household can have two hens.   Today I wrote the following letter to the Mayor and the Village Attorney.  I haven't mailed it yet, but emailed copies to several friends, inviting them to watch the consequences unfold.  One of my friends suggested that I not send the letter, but rather I should approach the situation more stealthily.   I invite you all on BYC to tell me what you think of each tactic.   I'll hold off on mailing the letter to the Village in the hopes that I get some feedback opinions from my fellow BYC'ers.
Here's the letter, followed by the stealth suggestions.
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Carolyn XXXXX
XXXXXXX Avenue  Freeport, NY 11520


March 8, 2010
XXXXXX, Mayor of Freeport
XXXXXXXX, Village Attorney
46 North Ocean Ave.
Freeport, NY 11520

Dear Mayor XXXXXX,
Dear Mr. XXXXX,

My husband and I have been living in Freeport for the past thirty-five years.   Its a wonderful community and continues to delight us with its diversity, opportunities, and promising future.

I would like one of the Village Codes changed and am writing to you today to ask what the procedure is so that I can properly apply for the change to be made.

I have had the great pleasure of keeping two hens as pets since last July, and would like a few more.

The limit of two female chickens is mandated by the Animals & Fowl section of the Freeport Village Code, chapter § 78-9.

Please advise me of the code-changing process.  The weather is warming up and Spring is the perfect season to turn my sparse twosome into a genuine flock of perhaps ten or twelve fine feathered friends.  (Hens only;  no roosters.)

The benefits of backyard chicken-keeping are many.  Theres the daily gathering of delicious eggs; the fun of watching the ladies interact;  enhancement of the vegetable gardens composted nutrients; eradication of slugs, snails and other insect pests; hands-on experience for kids and grandkids learning about responsibility and quality of life for self, family, and community.
 
Governments local and national talk-the-talk of supporting green living, reducing the carbon footprint and embracing home-grown food sources.    Keeping a small flock of backyard hens requires minimal effort and expense to actually walk-the-walk and have fun while helping to heal the earth literally in ones own backyard. 
Cordially,
/signed Carolyn XXXXX
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Stealth suggestion is to not send the above letter;  and advises me as follows:

"Carolyn: A pointy-headed bureaucrat in Freeport will respond to your letter reciting the existing ordinance with
the added statement that all citizens in Freeport must obey its laws, rules and regulations.

I don't know if you'll get a response outlining how the process for code changes works, but my suggestion
would be to attend a public hearing in which some group of Freeport citizens is presenting a petition
for an exception to or exemption from existing codes for cogent and compelling reasons.

Exceptions and exemptions are much easier to get and are almost routinely granted for people who want to
add an addition to their home for aging parents, or build closer to the property line than the code
permits, or erect a flagpole on their property, a swimming pool for rehabilitation purposes, etc.

After all, you're not trying to pass a law that permits everybody in Freeport to keep a dozen hens
-- you just want Carolyn XXXX to be able to do so.

Once you attend such public hearings and see how things unfold, collar the presenting group(s)
and find out how they did it and the steps taken. Almost invariably they will have legal
representation by a zoning attorney to guide them through the petition process.

One element of that process will be to get signed (possibly notarized) letters from every one of your
surrounding neighbors stating that it's perfectly fine with them for you maintain such
a menagerie. Since they will have such veto power -- one "no" will kill the deal -- that
what should absolutely be done is for you to invite them en masse to a lovely barbeque or
dinner, showing off your hens and henhouse and emphasizing the lack of noise, odor,
unsightliness, or dangers of any kind (like psittacosis).

Hope I've given you thought, and provided the beginnings of a strategy plan."
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Thing is though, I'd really love it if everyone in Freeport could have a bunch of egg-laying chickens.  I think it makes the Village even more interesting and uniquely modern and avant garde and grass-roots savvy.  Also we have a large immigrant population struggling to make ends meet and it would be a boon to have fresh eggs at their back door every day.  I might even suggest being a chicken-keeping resource for the Village if they'd like to encourage the trend.  I'd love to run workshops or be a liason for newbies and show them how to join BYC.com and find the answers they need there.  Still, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot here.  If being up front and open (i.e. sending the letter), I get a knee-jerk reflex response of months of months of enduring Village Hall meetings, and writing petitions and gathering signatures and creating a support dossier of documents attesting to the health and safety of chicken-keeping in other states, counties and villages, blah, blah, blah, maybe it really would be better to go breast my cards and go the stealth route as outlined above and just aim for a variance for just my household.

I'm not a very stealthy person though;  my family jokes that the only thing I could ever do for Machiavelli is make him a sandwich!

So.... what do you BYC's think about all this?

-Carolyn (humom to HennyPenny and ChickenLittle


Carolyn,

Thanks so much for the update! 2 hens per household. Not so bad because if you just need them for eggs, two production types are good enough but we'll see what we can work around...

- Tommy

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